A foot patrol of the French unit operating within the UNIFIL reserve force came under fire from an Israeli army position while inspecting an earth barrier recently erected by Israeli forces in the Wadi Qatmoun area, on the outskirts of the Lebanese town of Rmeish, according to the National News Agency (NNA).

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    Please explain to me, because I’m dumb, why are Israelis bombing hospitals and schools then?

    I am legit dumb and ignorant and wish to learn; and I am not trying to troll here, I am genuinely asking you to explain why resistance fighters are hiding behind hostages?

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        I did not know about the Naqba. Thank you for the wiki link!

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      why are Israelis bombing hospitals and schools

      Because hospitals keep Palestinians alive and schools teach Palestinians about the crimes against humanity Israel has been committing for almost 80 years.

      Also, they generally want to destroy everything resembling Palestinian societal infrastructure and culture, so such vital institutions are amongst their favorite targets.

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        I don’t think this is true, otherwise i could ask: so why don’t they simply napalm the entire refugee camps they forced most of Gaza into? Because so far they aren’t completely wiping refugee camps just targeting insurgent operations within them

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          Committing a full blown genocide in one night is not going to work. They already study this shit. You have to do gradually and with in a tolerance because the world is now watching. At the beginning when they didnt have numbers, they will genocide a full villages and build on graves. You can find these information in wikipedea. Now days with cameras every where they calculate how many they can kill daily where they can have a long case saying we didnt genocide people.

          This is to answer your question, but you also need to keep in mind what a genocide is. Erasing culture and identity is part of it which they do by replacing olive farms with pine trees on top of destroyed villages, or claiming a Palestinian cuisine as their own, or reducing the representation of Palestinian in pop culture. Targeting painters, poets, scientist, destroying children live by taking them hostages in prisons, and abusing them so they come out with lack of self identity and broken mentality.

          You have to read about their history and the systematic genocide they are committing if you really care about known why and whats going on.

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            If they were doing a genocide, why would they care if the world was watching though? Why care at all what anyone else thought if they were committing to deleting a culture off the planet?

            You sound like a Q-Anon conspiracy theory nutjob.

            I need more from you, like a news article or factual Wikipedia article or literally anything with substance because i am having trouble believing anything anyone says at face value on the internet.

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              You need more from me for what exactly ? I dont need to gave you shit. If you care you can look for that yourself and if you dont then no point of getting you anything.

              People with access to google, Wikipedia, free AI, tv, youtube, news website, UN website, government reports, and year an half of daily murder of kids, women, press and doctors , and then ask me to gave you more?

              What next? Reading for you to sleep?

              Wtf

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                Your rebuke made me chuckle at how correct you sound and how preposterous I sound.

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              You just claimed that Hamas hides behind children in hospitals backed up but fucked all and you never provided anything. And no, asking questions is not a response to it. So your note in any position tho make demands like that.

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                I’m trying to replace the nonsense propaganda that I was told with factual truth and asking you for help with shit i can read to better inform myself and grow to be better than listening to fake bullshit I’ve been toldmy entirelife

                You essentially told me to go fuck myself. Why?

                Is your position so weak that you can’t provide sources of credible reading? Sounds like you are full of shit.

                I can easily google shit myself, but I am here asking for curated content that is credible and would align with everything everyone here is talking about.

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                  You also immediately called them a nutjob followed by a dozen other insults. And you keep asking questions with obvious answers about exhaustively documented crimes and human rights violations, some of which the Israeli government isn’t even trying to hide.

                  Someone might get the impression you are not arguing in good faith and are trying to sow doubt and waste people’s time.

                  https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/amnesty-international-concludes-israel-is-committing-genocide-against-palestinians-in-gaza/

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                  If you can so easily google shit your self, why could you not provide a single source to back up your claim about children as human shields in hospitals? If you belive that you have been told lies, why do you say such things so matter of factually? Do you still think that is the case?

                  And why is it that you get this excessive reaction at mild push back? Why is it that you can’t be asked to do what you ask of others? Could you perhaps see how one could easily be lead to the conclusion that you’re not acting in the spirit you claim to?

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                    why could you not provide a single source to back up your claim

                    I’m not going to post links to nonsense allegedly one-sided propaganda for you because that’s not what I’m here for.

                    If you belive that you have been told lies, why do you say such things so matter of factually?

                    Because humans have egos, and those are built over years and years, they are difficult to take down and change. I’m coming to a realization ive been reading propaganda and had the wrong opinion the entire time and having difficulty understanding how or why this happened to me. Isee what you are saying.

                    I’m not going to answer to you, specifically, because you sound like a dipshit trying to instigate an argument for no reason, so go fuck yourself. I’m going to proceed to read the links others here have shared with me to become better informed without your help, fuck off somewhere else you bigoted dumbass.

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          “Riddle me this: Why are they killing them slowly if they want them dead?”

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          Simply because they know it’s not something they could get away with. They’re smart enough though to have people like you believe that’s not what they want, I’ll give’em that. What they’re after is what they think they can achieve, which is to ethnically cleanse Gaza and the West Bank altogether and push the Palestinians out, and they’re using what hamas did and whatever lies they spiced up on October 7th as an excuse. The world is watching, and that’s the only thing stopping them from doing what they had done many times back when technology wasn’t there to show their horrific crimes over the past 80 years…

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        I don’t know how to break this to you, but genuine good guys don’t hold innocent people as hostages and unnecessarily risk innocent lives; freedom fighters protect who they fight for. Please help me change my mind, I’m being serious.

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          I don’t know how to break this to you, but genuine good guys don’t hold innocent people as hostages and unnecessarily risk innocent lives

          Which is exactly what Israel is doing.

          Please help me change my mind, I’m being serious.

          No. You clearly aren’t. Stop pretending you’re not a willfully blind Hasbarist.

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            Israel is also holding hostages? I did not know that. Please link me a news article covering this.

            Yes I am being serious about asking you to help me out with my ignorance. I don’t even know what the fuck are Hasbarist is.

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              For someone pleading ignorance, you sure as hell know a lot of pro-Israel talking points. Being misinformed and spreading misinformation is NOT the same thing as being uninformed.

              Hasbara is Hebrew for “explanation” and also the colloquial term for pro-Israel apologia amongst Hasbarists.

              Hasbarists are the people who spread those lies.

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            Looks like I’ve been basing my opinions on Hollywood action films, thinking good guys don’t take hostages.

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                Isn’t there still a bunch of hostages being held in Gaza? I thought this is why they are attacking Hamas again after a cease fire agreement. This is why this is relevant.

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                  How does Hamas holding hostages justify bombing hospitals and schools?

                  Also, the ceasefire was meant to be a hostage exchange. Israel gives up hostages in exchange for the hostages Hamas took. Israel decided it didn’t want to give up any more hostages and violated the ceasefire agreement.

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          They aren’t good guys, but Israel is literally evil when they murder innocents when there is no justifiable threat. I don’t know what indoctrination convinced you that tens of thousands of innocent civilians is a justifiable cost. None of this defendable.

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            I’m not sure where you read that I’m defending Israel, because that was not my intention.