The share of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents who believe that President Joe Biden’s 2020 election win was not legitimate has ticked back up, according to a new CNN poll fielded throughout July. All told, 69% of Republicans and Republican-leaners say Biden’s win was not legitimate, up from 63% earlier this year and through last fall, even as there is no evidence of election fraud that would have altered the outcome of the contest.

  • MushuChupacabra
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    31 year ago

    I think that you’re in a bind, because you know what you stand for, and your party is currently infested with MAGA style personalities, who are under the influence of the Russians. I don’t think that you like that very much, as you’ve pointed out your disdain for Trump.

    I don’t have any particular fondness for Joseph McCarthy, but if he was alive today, he’d go absolutely apeshit over how badly compromised the GOP has become. He would make heads roll, and probably remove a lot of prominent figures that you’re probably embarrassed to have representing your party.

    We aren’t comfortable sharing any sort of label with racists. Do you have any satistics on how republicans ‘feel comfortable’ with Nazi’s?

    “The Jews will not replace us! The Jews will not replace us!” I bet you a cup of coffee that at least one of the tiki torch has a predelection for nazism. You know what the republican president’s comments were.

    I did a Google search of “Jan 6 nazi”, which was enlightening. I’d suggest taking a look, and then reflecting on Republican rhetoric about that day.

    Stephen Miller had an appointed position.

    • MasterOBee Master/King
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      11 year ago

      You described what you thought of the Republican party, I responded to every single one of your accusations, and after that you haven’t been able to back up your list of the evils republicans commit.

      If you’d like to respectfully continue the discussion, I don’t see why you wouldn’t try to back up what you stated.

      • MushuChupacabra
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        21 year ago

        I think that you’re missing the broader point, which is that the GOP has a severe optics problem, and are doubling down on everything that makes them look bad. At this instant in time, the Democrats are benefitting tremendously from the Contrast effect.

        What’s problematic about our discussion, is that I’m not overly invested in this conversation, and nothing that constitutes a “win” for you addresses the above. Deep down where it counts, I am completely convinced that you will remain a proud conservative, and that I will never move you an eyelash width off of your exact position. That remains true regardless of the quality of my response so take that for what you will.

        If I was in charge of repairing the GOP brand, I would do two things, in rapid succession. It wouldn’t fix things instantly, but it would put every voting demographic back into play within one or two voting cycles, tops. First, throw Trump under the bus, and blame him for everything possible that can be thrown at him. Like physics defying pivot. Second, table a bill to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine which was repealed in 1987. Trump takes the fall, the Republicans propose legislation that forces bipartisanship, and the loudest polarizing voices get cut off at the nuts, and the stuff that you wish would just go away from the party would just melt. Back to the table, actual debate, meaningful legislation, and a chance for the young, real grassroots candidates rise and shine. I’m not sure if either party would have the guts to pull off the Fairness Doctrine thing, but it would have to be the Republicans to propose it to force the win.