The rules for bots # Bots should be clearly prompted by a command # Bots that always post without human intervention are noisy and are often unwanted. Bots should not act in a community without mods from that community being contacted first # Moderators should not have to chase down the bots being used in their community, it should be opt-in. Just ask, be nice. Bots should minimize the space they take with their messages # A bot’s response should be a small as possible to avoid taking space that could be used by people.

After some discussions in !chat, we came up with the conclusion we should adopt rules surrounding bots.

We’ll ban bots which we are aware of that currently don’t follow these rules and contact their creators. Please report bots that don’t follow these.

  • @d3Xt3r@beehaw.orgEnglish
    12•11 months ago

    I liked the original autotldr bot on Reddit. The one here though seems to be producing a large summary instead of just TL;DR.

    Here’s an example: https://lemmings.world/comment/920986

    This comment takes up most of the screen space on my mobile device. I don’t consider this to be a TL;DR. At this rate, I’d opt to just read the article in question instead.

    The other problem is that lengthy TL;DRs like this obstruct comments, making it annoying to scroll past for those of who are on mobile devices. I could block the bot of course, but I don’t want to - I do want a legit TL;DR, not a reworded article.

    Here’s my attempt at generating a TL;DR of the mentioned article, using ChatGPT:

    Two manuscripts published on the arXiv pre-peer-review repository claim to have synthesized a room-temperature superconductor, LK-99. This superconductor is a variation of lead apatite, and allegedly operates not only at room temperature but also above water’s boiling point, at regular pressures. The synthesis process is complex, yielding potential variations in the final product. Early attempts to reproduce these findings have shown mixed results, adding to the intrigue and uncertainty surrounding the material’s properties. While these claims could potentially revolutionize the field, their validation would give rise to further challenges about how to transform this material into a practical, high-current-carrying form. The upcoming period is likely to see intense activity from labs worldwide in their efforts to corroborate these results, which could significantly accelerate the emergence of a scientific consensus.

    IMO, this is what a TL;DR should look like - a single paragraph and under 150 words.

    • brieEnglish
      9•11 months ago

      To be fair, the TL;DR would be a lot shorter if the breaks between sentences were removed. I personally draw the line at around 200 words for a summary, so the 183 words in the summary is a bit long but still a reasonable TL;DR for an article.

      Since Lemmy implements spoiler tags, I think wrapping the summary in a spoiler tag would be a way to solve the length problem.

      • @Zoop@beehaw.orgEnglish
        5•11 months ago

        I love the idea of wrapping the summary in a spoiler tag! I think that would be a great idea to be implemented for bots like that and would solve a lot of this. That’s a great idea you’ve had and I thank you for sharing it!

    • 𝒍𝒆𝒎𝒂𝒏𝒏
      1•11 months ago

      Note - I’m not a beehaw user

      The one here though seems to be producing a large summary instead of just TL;DR

      I kinda prefer this though, IMO condensing an article down into a one or a few sentences could make it difficult to facilitate a “healthy” discussion

      A really miniscule TL;DR seems more likely for a bunch of assumptions to be made based on that alone, and increase the likelihood of users calling each other out for not actually reading the article.

      This comment takes up most of the screen space on my mobile device

      Oh ☹️ I decreased the font size for comments on my mobile so there was a higher content density but that might not work for you