The share of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents who believe that President Joe Biden’s 2020 election win was not legitimate has ticked back up, according to a new CNN poll fielded throughout July. All told, 69% of Republicans and Republican-leaners say Biden’s win was not legitimate, up from 63% earlier this year and through last fall, even as there is no evidence of election fraud that would have altered the outcome of the contest.

  • I was appreciative of the earnest discourse until the southern strategy was ignored and you showed your own bias.

    Also, even though it does happen on both sides, gerrymandering by the right is more prolific and undermines the balance of power.

    The Senate already has disproportionate representation against the will of the populace because of rural states like the Dakotas, etc. (and, furthermore, it controls judiciary appointments).

    Then gerrymandering creates an unearned advantage in the house, and thus the electoral College, which puts all three branches in favor of conservatives.

    This is what people mean when they criticize the “both sides” argument. Yes, both side are capable of the same evil, but our system does not reflect that potential equally.

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      I was appreciative of the earnest discourse until the southern strategy was ignored and you showed your own bias.

      Ahhh yes, please tell me more about how everything in history democrats have done were actually just republicans, because the parties switched or something.

      Also, even though it does happen on both sides

      So you lied your last comment?

      The Senate already has disproportionate representation against the will of the populace because of rural states like the Dakotas, etc

      Was it you that mentioned you aren’t american? That makes sense why you would misunderstand it, the purpose of the senate is to have equal representation across ALL states. That was the agreement to create the union between the states. Senate is a fixed 2 seats, congress is based on population. Your misunderstanding of the three branches of government only shows your ignorance, it doesn’t show a fault of the system

      Then gerrymandering creates an unearned advantage in the house, and thus the electoral College, which puts all three branches in favor of conservatives.

      How? It’s a level playing field, just because you don’t understand senate vs the house doesn’t mean it’s unfair. You should read up about the system of government.

      Yes, both side are capable of the same evil, but our system does not reflect that potential equally.

      Meaning that you just dislike one side and you think that they’re evil? I’m sorry half the country thinks differently than you, but once again, that’s not an inherent flaw of the system, it’s actually a sign of a working system. That almost every election, we have close voting in congress and the presidency. It would be concerning if every election republicans got the trinity in the government or liberals did.

      • Can’t tell if you’re intentionally misunderstanding history or just never understood it.

        I only made one comment, but it makes sense that you can’t follow along with a timeline.

        I know the purpose of the Senate. But It’s purpose doesn’t change the fact that there are representatives there whose constituency consists of more cows than people, by design. And they vote on the judiciary for the whole country including the Supreme Court.

        Gerrymandering is a problem because it removes a level playing field. When combined with the other issues we’ve been discussing, and the modern times we live in, it becomes a much bigger problem.

        I’m sorry you’re so ignorant about your own government, obviously it’s working perfectly for you.

        It’s less than half the country that “thinks differently”, that’s the point.

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          I know the purpose of the Senate.

          You clearly don’t.

          But It’s purpose doesn’t change the fact that there are representatives there whose constituency consists of more cows than people, by design.

          Yeah, almost like every single state gets…2 senators…ya know, what all the states agreed to when the country was formed.

          And they vote on the judiciary for the whole country including the Supreme Court.

          Yeah, almost like the agreement the states made to create the country was designed like this. If you want to change the rules, theres constitutional amendments.

          Gerrymandering is a problem because it removes a level playing field.

          Agreed, you haven’t offered a solution.

          I’m sorry you’re so ignorant about your own government, obviously it’s working perfectly for you.

          It’s funny that I explained everything very plainly to you, and you tell me I’m wrong, but can’t tell me 1 thing in my comment that was wrong

          It’s less than half the country that “thinks differently”, that’s the point.

          And our country was designed to protect the minority from tyranny of the majority, that’s the point.

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              You are not a serious person. The minority is running the country.

              The minority is preventing majority tyranny. States can pass what laws they want, why can’t you be fine with california doing what they want in their state, why do you need people in wyoming to abide by what california wants? That’s the tyranny of the majority that our founding fathers recognized that you’re too ignorant to realize.