Are you suggesting that a conservative cannot also be LGBTQ+? I’m not conservative but I am a supporter of the LGBTQ+ community. Nonetheless, it seems prejudice and hypocritical to assume.
Are you suggesting that a conservative cannot also be LGBTQ+?
Yes. 100%. What do conservatives stand for other than rage-baiting culture war bullshit? They certainly aren’t in favor of fiscal responsibility or combating Russia’s influence in the west or upholding the rule of law for everyone. What’s left?
I’m conservative, there’s nothing wrong with gay people I don’t know why you would assume that all conservatives have something against them. Maybe it’s your Limited worldview
I’m conservative, there’s nothing wrong with gay people I don’t know why you would assume that all conservatives have something against them. Maybe it’s your Limited worldview
So answer the question. Without culture war “anti-woke” nonsense, what’s left for you to believe in that causes you to identify as a conservative? They ran the deficit up $8 trillion dollars in four years, they’re all about how cool and awesome Russia is, and they refuse to even wag a finger at any of their own who are indicted or convicted for crimes the rest of us would already be strapped into Ol’ Sparky for. What beliefs do you have about the direction of America that line up with the conservative position in 2023 that don’t involve the removal of LGBTQ+ people from society?
Or is this one of those “Gay people are fine. It’s the groomers and the drag queens who we need a final solution for!” things?
speaking as a trans queer person, having seen the rhetoric conservatives use to speak about people like me in both media and politics, having seen how they treat disabled folk (many of my queer friends are disabled), having seen how they treat the poor and unhoused, many of my lgbtq friends being poor and unhoused, having to do sex work that terrifies me bc i can’t afford rent on disability rates
yea you can’t be conservative in 2023 and support queer rights or advancement. it’s literally not possible. you can privately be accepting of queer people in your life. but if you’re a conservative, you’re grouping up with people who are trying to kill us.
edit: bc i’m dumb and white i didn’t include this initially, but conservatives also organizationally support cops lynching Black folk and i’d like to add that, this is another reason i will literally never befriend or fuck or even tolerate a conservative, outside of contexts where my safety is at risk. fuck conservatives. every one of them.
Fair enough. I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt and don’t like to think the world is black and white or absolute. Sorry to everyone if I came off as a dick in my initial response; Not my intention.
you didn’t come off as a dick. i just think you were wrong. i give everyone the benefit of the doubt too, but people who wear conservative colours remove all doubt when they put on their uniforms. a conservative set of beliefs implies certain actions and behaviours, and literally every single one of them is destructive socially, and most of them are destructive to me personally.
i see a conservative, and i know i’m in danger. whether they say “you know i actually don’t have a problem with gay people!!” or not
There’s conservative gays and self hating gays and guess what, they’re the same gays. Imagine the mod of gaming was Bobby Kotick, sure, he’s gamed, his gaming CV is a lot more interesting than most, but is he really the person you want shaping the discourse around gaming?
conservative lgbt people usually just go with “lgbt” rather than “lgbtq”. I’ve also seen “lgb”. yes there’s conservative lgbt people but… you know how things are lol
Yeah, I suppose you’re right . I just try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt and don’t like to think the world is black and white or absolute. Sorry to everyone if I came off as a dick in my initial response; Not my intention.
no worries. and yes, I understand what you mean. people have a mix of views and sometimes it’s counterintuitive. I’m far left in terms of economics, a bit conservative socially, and am transsexual. and a lot of people get confused by that lol.
I haven’t dug into the magazines/subs in question, so it could go either way. But it’s not uncommon for conservative lgbt to avoid the lgbtq label, and for people on either side to “squat” groups due to the conflict.
Are you suggesting that a conservative cannot also be LGBTQ+? I’m not conservative but I am a supporter of the LGBTQ+ community. Nonetheless, it seems prejudice and hypocritical to assume.
With the stuff they’ve been posting in conservative, yes. Yes I am.
I can’t see what they’re posting cause I have it blocked but I’ll take your word for it.
I can see the hive mind (or at least part of it) has migrated to the fediverse lol
I’m glad I’m not the only one who can see that
Are you suggesting that a nazi cannot also support rights for Jewish people?
Yes. 100%. What do conservatives stand for other than rage-baiting culture war bullshit? They certainly aren’t in favor of fiscal responsibility or combating Russia’s influence in the west or upholding the rule of law for everyone. What’s left?
I’m conservative, there’s nothing wrong with gay people I don’t know why you would assume that all conservatives have something against them. Maybe it’s your Limited worldview
Maybe it’s because it’s literally part of the platform for America’s conservative Party.
there literally is not an “America’s Conservative Party”
I’m talking about the Republican Party in a way that non Americans would understand.
So answer the question. Without culture war “anti-woke” nonsense, what’s left for you to believe in that causes you to identify as a conservative? They ran the deficit up $8 trillion dollars in four years, they’re all about how cool and awesome Russia is, and they refuse to even wag a finger at any of their own who are indicted or convicted for crimes the rest of us would already be strapped into Ol’ Sparky for. What beliefs do you have about the direction of America that line up with the conservative position in 2023 that don’t involve the removal of LGBTQ+ people from society?
Or is this one of those “Gay people are fine. It’s the groomers and the drag queens who we need a final solution for!” things?
speaking as a trans queer person, having seen the rhetoric conservatives use to speak about people like me in both media and politics, having seen how they treat disabled folk (many of my queer friends are disabled), having seen how they treat the poor and unhoused, many of my lgbtq friends being poor and unhoused, having to do sex work that terrifies me bc i can’t afford rent on disability rates
yea you can’t be conservative in 2023 and support queer rights or advancement. it’s literally not possible. you can privately be accepting of queer people in your life. but if you’re a conservative, you’re grouping up with people who are trying to kill us.
edit: bc i’m dumb and white i didn’t include this initially, but conservatives also organizationally support cops lynching Black folk and i’d like to add that, this is another reason i will literally never befriend or fuck or even tolerate a conservative, outside of contexts where my safety is at risk. fuck conservatives. every one of them.
Fair enough. I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt and don’t like to think the world is black and white or absolute. Sorry to everyone if I came off as a dick in my initial response; Not my intention.
you didn’t come off as a dick. i just think you were wrong. i give everyone the benefit of the doubt too, but people who wear conservative colours remove all doubt when they put on their uniforms. a conservative set of beliefs implies certain actions and behaviours, and literally every single one of them is destructive socially, and most of them are destructive to me personally.
i see a conservative, and i know i’m in danger. whether they say “you know i actually don’t have a problem with gay people!!” or not
There’s conservative gays and self hating gays and guess what, they’re the same gays. Imagine the mod of gaming was Bobby Kotick, sure, he’s gamed, his gaming CV is a lot more interesting than most, but is he really the person you want shaping the discourse around gaming?
conservative lgbt people usually just go with “lgbt” rather than “lgbtq”. I’ve also seen “lgb”. yes there’s conservative lgbt people but… you know how things are lol
Yeah, I suppose you’re right . I just try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt and don’t like to think the world is black and white or absolute. Sorry to everyone if I came off as a dick in my initial response; Not my intention.
no worries. and yes, I understand what you mean. people have a mix of views and sometimes it’s counterintuitive. I’m far left in terms of economics, a bit conservative socially, and am transsexual. and a lot of people get confused by that lol.
I haven’t dug into the magazines/subs in question, so it could go either way. But it’s not uncommon for conservative lgbt to avoid the lgbtq label, and for people on either side to “squat” groups due to the conflict.