Police investigation remains open. The photo of one of the minors included a fly; that is the logo of Clothoff, the application that is presumably being used to create the images, which promotes its services with the slogan: “Undress anybody with our free service!”

  • iByteABit [he/him]
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    131 year ago

    Governments need to strike hard against all kinds of platforms like this, even if they can be used for legitimate reasons.

    AI is way too dangerous a tool to allow free innovation and market on, it’s the number one technology right now that must be heavily regulated.

    • @Blapoo@lemmy.ml
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      241 year ago

      What, exactly would they regulate? The training data? The output? What kinds of user inputs are accepted?

      All of this is hackable.

      • pseudorandom
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        It’s child porn in this case. Regulate it as such. Putting a real child’s head onto an AI generated body is sexualizing a child.

        • @FUCKRedditMods@lemm.ee
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          81 year ago

          That’s not what he’s saying, he’s asking what grounds and mechanism they have for regulating the platform itself.

      • RaivoKulli
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        121 year ago

        Making unauthorized nude images of other people, probably. The service did advertise, “undress anyone”.

        • @jet@hackertalks.com
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          The Philosophical question becomes, if it’s AI generated is it really a photo of them?

          Let’s take it to an extreme. If you cut the face off somebody’s polaroid and then paste it into a nudie magazine over the face of an actress. Is that amalgam a nude photo of the Polaroid picture person?

          It’s a debate that could go either way, and I’m sure we will have an exciting legal land scape with countries with different rules.

          • @taladar@feddit.de
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            91 year ago

            I suppose you could make a Ship of Theseus like argument there too. At what point does it matter where the parts of the picture came from. Most would probably be okay with their hairstyle being added to someone else’s picture, what about their eyes, their mouth,… Where exactly is the line?

          • @ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org
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            The Philosophical question becomes, if it’s AI generated is it really a photo of them?

            That does not matter, as people can’t make a difference, even if they wanted.
            It is a photo about them if you can recognize them, especially their face, on it.

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              What if there’s somebody who looks very similar to somebody else? Are they prevented from using their likeness in film and media?

              Could an identical twin sister be forbidden from going into porn, to prevent her from besmirching the good image of her other twin sister who’s a teacher?

          • @RagnarokOnline@reddthat.com
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            71 year ago

            I think it comes down to the identity of the person whose head is on the body. For instance, if the eyes had a black bar covering them or if the face was blurred out, would it be as much an invasion of privacy?

            However, if the face was censored, the photo wouldn’t have the same appeal to the person who generated it. That’s the issue here.

            A cutout of a person’s head on a porn star’s picture still has a sense of falsehood to it. An AI generated image that’s likely similar to the subject’s body type removes a lot of the falsehood, and thus makes the image have more power. Without the subject’s consent, this power is harmful.

            You’re right about the legal battles, though. I just feel bad for the people who will have their dignity compromised in the mean time. Everyone should be entitled to dignity.

          • RaivoKulli
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            51 year ago

            In this sort of situations the conclusion would be easy or in cases where we have the input photo. But absolutely it could get iffy

          • @barsoap@lemm.ee
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            Objectively it’s absolutely not AIs don’t have X-ray eyes. Best they could do is infer rough body shape from a clothed example but anything beyond that is pure guesswork. The average 14yold is bound to be much better at undressing people with their eyes than an AI could ever be.

            Subjectively, though, of course yes it is. You’re not imagining the cutie two desks over nude because it isn’t them.

          • @ParsnipWitch@feddit.de
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            21 year ago

            How about we teach people some baseline of respect towards other people? Punishing behaviour like that can help showing that it’s not okay to treat other people like pieces of meat.

              • RaivoKulli
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                I’m fairly sure there are legal cases about it, so no need to encourage anyone to make kiddie porn…

                  • RaivoKulli
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                    I’m confused why anyone would encourage others to make AI kiddie porn. Weird as fuck dude

        • @Blapoo@lemmy.ml
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          61 year ago

          Good point. What I mean by that is you can modify the prompt or the output to an extent where it can be argued “Nah, that’s not her. It was just inspired by her for this result”

          Is it illegal to draw from imagination someone else nude?

      • iByteABit [he/him]
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        31 year ago

        Surely there will be loop holes, but there must be laws there in the first place. Better something than nothing

    • @Risk@feddit.uk
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      221 year ago

      Good luck regulating cross borders.

      I’d also prioritise regulating fossil fuel technology as the number one priority.

      • iByteABit [he/him]
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        51 year ago

        Fossil fuels is absolutely number one, I was talking about digital technology specifically

      • iByteABit [he/him]
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        Maybe it would feel different to you if it was your daughter’s fake nudes making their rounds on her classmate’s social media

        • @BakedGoods@sh.itjust.works
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          Fake nudes have been around since the days of Kazaa and eDonkey. It’s nothing new. The only thing hard regulation is going to do is to keep the public unaware of how AI can be used (and make them unable to defend themselves from those who use it for unsavoury purposes).

          These outrages that keep getting spammed all over the Internet calling for regulation smell horribly of corporate astroturfing.

            • @BakedGoods@sh.itjust.works
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              11 year ago

              “You’re a white American male in college and it shows”

              Very far off. Not even the right continent.

              “How on earth is this corporate astroturfing? Corporations fucking love AI. They don’t want any restrictions on them.”

              Corporations have been calling for regulation on AI, so that it’s only allowed as a service from them instead of being something anyone can do at home on their own hardware.

              It’s the same with a lot of the artist “outrage” over AI replacing them.

              • iByteABit [he/him]
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                11 year ago

                I know artists, they actually are worried and for good reason, and they are the last to have corprorate interests