It’s called having an informed position and debating. Lemmings seem incapable of doing that. I’ve presented nothing but a fact based position, and yet I’ve received nothing but ad hominem attacks, poorly researched (and outdated, incorrect) rebuttals, and just ridiculous comments.
I work in this industry and I’m trying to provide context and nuance that is consistently missing here. I’m going to bet that none of the people responding with such vitriol even have a remote understanding of the industry or what the workers get paid.
Whatever, I lean left and I think the UAW is overplaying their hand. They’re going to do more harm in the long run - they already have an excellent deal on the table that gets them the majority of what they want. The supply base is already weak from Covid, a prolonged strike means suppliers have to lay off workers and possibly close. That represents far more workers than the UAW, multiples even. In addition, there are more than double the UAW ranks in salaried positions that will also be harmed by a prolonged strike.
Again, to pay for UAW workers earning in the 80th percentile (assuming their average comp increases to $100k with the deal on the table) the companies will look for efficiencies elsewhere. (For the astonishing number of users that apparently need to hear this - 80th percentile means more than 8 out of 10 working adults in the US)
We are being asked to look to Mexico and India for salaried positions and question if a function needs to be done here. So it isn’t just factory work that can be off-shored, it’s knowledge work and it is broader than just IT support or customer service.
If everyone keeps blocking these guys, they end up dominating the conversation.
It’s called having an informed position and debating. Lemmings seem incapable of doing that. I’ve presented nothing but a fact based position, and yet I’ve received nothing but ad hominem attacks, poorly researched (and outdated, incorrect) rebuttals, and just ridiculous comments.
I work in this industry and I’m trying to provide context and nuance that is consistently missing here. I’m going to bet that none of the people responding with such vitriol even have a remote understanding of the industry or what the workers get paid.
Whatever, I lean left and I think the UAW is overplaying their hand. They’re going to do more harm in the long run - they already have an excellent deal on the table that gets them the majority of what they want. The supply base is already weak from Covid, a prolonged strike means suppliers have to lay off workers and possibly close. That represents far more workers than the UAW, multiples even. In addition, there are more than double the UAW ranks in salaried positions that will also be harmed by a prolonged strike.
Again, to pay for UAW workers earning in the 80th percentile (assuming their average comp increases to $100k with the deal on the table) the companies will look for efficiencies elsewhere. (For the astonishing number of users that apparently need to hear this - 80th percentile means more than 8 out of 10 working adults in the US)
We are being asked to look to Mexico and India for salaried positions and question if a function needs to be done here. So it isn’t just factory work that can be off-shored, it’s knowledge work and it is broader than just IT support or customer service.
I don’t feel informed enough to have an opinion on that, I’m just pointing out how blocking people who say stuff you disagree with is a bad idea.