• @Sylver@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Look up the paradox of intolerance.

    I also agree that society should tolerate freedom of speech. But when that freedom of speech is being used to weaponize and remove others’ freedom of speech, we should not tolerate that.

    • hiddengoat
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      58 months ago

      Or don’t look up the paradox of intolerance because it’s nothing more than linguistic masturbation.

        • hiddengoat
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          58 months ago

          The concept of tolerance is not and never has been about accepting the choices and actions of other people without exception. You do not tolerate someone punching you in the face. You do not tolerate someone diddling kids. You do not tolerate Nazis. By ignoring these actions you are not indicating tolerance, you are indicating ACCEPTANCE. You’re fine with Nazis, and diddlers, and people randomly punching you in the face.

          Calling this “tolerance” reeks of “well ackshully…” at the highest academic level. It’s intentionally misunderstanding a human concept in favor of a dictionary definition.

          You are never intolerant of intolerance, you REJECT intolerance, making the whole thing moot.

          Also the whole concept gives Nazis a reason to whine about “discrimination” while they’re being woodchippered and those little bitches already scream enough when fed in feet-first.

          • @dumblederp@aussie.zone
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            78 months ago

            Tolerance is a social contract. If people aren’t taking part in that social contact they don’t deserve the benefits of it.

          • @Taleya@aussie.zone
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            58 months ago

            That’s actually intentional. Popper’s philosophical wanking has been wildly co-opted and twisted by the right. ‘So much for the tolerant left!’ they cry. Like the ‘meet me in the middle’ argument it’s designed to just shit the waters up.

            I ain’t meeting the cunts in the middle and who the fuck told you i was the tolerant left.

    • sheepishly
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      8 months ago

      Yeah man, if we tolerate those damn tram-hailers it’s a slippery slope from there right down to fascism

      • hiddengoat
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        28 months ago

        I read that as “ham-trailers” and that sounds like the perfect term for people the size of NFL linemen.

    • @jasory@programming.dev
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      38 months ago

      Because of all the political power Nazis have…

      Paradox of intolerance is largely irrelevant. Democracies don’t collapse because of free speech, they collapse because the public loses faith in them (justified or not).

      If you run around making wild statements, the public isn’t going to automatically believe you unless it corresponds with some personal experience or observation. This is why libertarian and socialist movements (and Nazi movements) crash and burn in the US. There claims just don’t correspond with how people perceive there country.