it’s obvious that the real problem is that Melbourne’s buses and roads are shit, not that people are driving at normal car speeds.
lowering speed limits are a good thing but really low speeds like 6km/h only belong in carparks and high pedestrian areas.
20km/h should be the norm for areas like shopping streets.
Anyway the real problem is that we have designed our car moving roads to be right in the centre or population centres, and that our buses are really fucking horribly scheduled and operated. Even our 90x “smartbus” high frequency lines have really shit 20m or worse frequency sometimes, and off peak frequency is generally shit on any route, even rail.
It would be nice if 2 people waiting at a crosswalk got priority over 1 person in a car, but that’s not going to happen with the primitive “heavy moving box strong” logic in our brains, get real
but really low speeds like 6km/h only belong in carparks and high pedestrian areas.
20km/h should be the norm for areas like shopping streets
Absolutely. Which is why that nobody is saying 6 km/h should be the norm. The article said closer to. With current speed limits normally being 60 km/h, and you’re extremely lucky if you can get it reduced to 40 km/h, their “closer to” is pretty obviously not saying it should be 6 km/h. They’re talking about 30 km/h on local residential streets.
fwiw this user definitely is car-brained. It’s not just this one comment. They have a long history of opposing improvements to our cities and defending motornormativity.
carbrains are real but this user isn’t one
it’s obvious that the real problem is that Melbourne’s buses and roads are shit, not that people are driving at normal car speeds.
lowering speed limits are a good thing but really low speeds like 6km/h only belong in carparks and high pedestrian areas.
20km/h should be the norm for areas like shopping streets.
Anyway the real problem is that we have designed our car moving roads to be right in the centre or population centres, and that our buses are really fucking horribly scheduled and operated. Even our 90x “smartbus” high frequency lines have really shit 20m or worse frequency sometimes, and off peak frequency is generally shit on any route, even rail.
It would be nice if 2 people waiting at a crosswalk got priority over 1 person in a car, but that’s not going to happen with the primitive “heavy moving box strong” logic in our brains, get real
Absolutely. Which is why that nobody is saying 6 km/h should be the norm. The article said closer to. With current speed limits normally being 60 km/h, and you’re extremely lucky if you can get it reduced to 40 km/h, their “closer to” is pretty obviously not saying it should be 6 km/h. They’re talking about 30 km/h on local residential streets.
fwiw this user definitely is car-brained. It’s not just this one comment. They have a long history of opposing improvements to our cities and defending motornormativity.