• @sin_free_for_00_days
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    381 year ago

    The parties don’t care what people want/need. Occasionally putting the lipstick on the pig fools too many people for them to care.

    • hihusio
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      121 year ago

      voters select these candidates via primaries and general election, though.

      • Deceptichum
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        181 year ago

        Yeah, just look at the DNC and Bernie. Clearly chosen by the voters and not at all manipulated by the party to get the result they wanted.

        • demvoter
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          1 year ago

          You still believe the vote was rigged by the DNC after all these years? Holy shit.

          • lunar_parking
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            151 year ago

            Do you have any idea how influential media is? When you have MSNBC and CNN plus various others talking about how Biden is the only viable option again and again and again, you can’t ignore the influence of that. He won South Carolina after the endorsement of a very popular and influential corporate Democrat there. The media along with the DNC saw that as the opportunity to rally around Biden. Everyone drops out and endorses him, and there you go. I’m oversimplifying a bit for the sake of brevity, obviously, but bottom line, Biden was chosen and supported to defeat Bernie because they couldn’t accept the possibility of a politician like Bernie winning. He was a threat to capital and he was extinguished from the race.

            • Deceptichum
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              91 year ago

              Not to mention the DNC leaked information and ways to sabotage him (ex. Trying to use that he was Jewish against him$

            • TheRtRevKaiserM
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              41 year ago

              Name calling isn’t really in the spirit of this instance. You can argue and still be nice.

              • Deceptichum
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                11 year ago

                Oh joy the reddit moral prude police have found the place.

                Please protect my delicate ears from the naughty words!

                • TheRtRevKaiserM
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                  41 year ago

                  I don’t care about your language, but I do care about how you interact with other users. Be civil.

            • @Uniquitous
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              21 year ago

              Superdelegates serve a valid purpose. If the Republican party had them we might not have been subjected to four years of Trump.

          • @DrPop
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            31 year ago

            We’re you paying attention during the primaries? Everywhere pushed the narrative that he couldn’t beat Trump enough that people believed it and voted for Biden in the primaries.

        • hihusio
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          61 year ago

          unfortunately, he wasn’t chosen by voters when it came to actual primary votes.

      • Sean
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        71 year ago

        @hihusio @trashhalo @sin_free_for_00_days
        Trump saying that the election was stolen in 2020 (rehashing a lie from before 2016 election that if doesn’t win it is fraud)

        Big Lie: Hillary Clinton is assured to win. Next Big Lie: HRC lost only because of Russians, Susan Sarandon, and Bernie Sanders (ignore the 40 rallies he did to GOTV)

        Next Big Lie: Only moderate corporatists could beat Trump, Biden winning 5 states by a margin of victory of less than 100k votes must be ignored

        • hihusio
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          21 year ago

          funding and party support is one thing. votes are another.

          • FfaerieOxide
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            31 year ago

            Are leaders chosen exclusively according to the popular will of The People as you would seem to assert, or not?
            Are their extrapublic forces fingering the scales?

            You can’t imply voters are to blame for the parties ignoring their interests and admit other interests manipulate the system to serve their ends.

            • hihusio
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              31 year ago

              primary voters vote for the candidate. party elites might have their horse but if the voters go another way, then their horse still loses the race despite the advantage. an outsider candidate could win if they have the votes.