• @aidan@lemmy.world
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    11 year ago

    My understanding of socialism is that it describes collective control of the means of production, collective control can take many forms, including state control

    • @masquenox@lemmy.world
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      11 year ago

      Control by a bunch of party bureaucrats and apparatchiks who, like their counter-parts in corporate capitalist countries, are only interested in maintaining and expanding their own power and privilege in no way constitutes anything that can be called “collective” with a straight face - period.

      The term “socialism” has a very hard and uncompromising meaning - it becomes utterly meaningless when it becomes whatever “Dear Brother Comrade Leader” says it is.