I love Linux, but I never expect it to be mainstream or even extremely accessible to typical users. In fact, if it made it to mainstream, it’d probably get ruined somehow by corporate interference, monetization, etc. How you may ask? Well, corporations have a lot of money and influence and I’m sure they could “find a way” if motivated to do so.
Aren’t there Android versions that don’t have all the Google things and are open source? (GrapheneOS and LineageOS)
If you’re just talking about your average android I’m afraid I agree and am an offender myself. (I hope to change that one day though)
Google still controls the source, and so they have influence over the rest.
It’s like Ungoogled Chromium. Sure, it’s open source. Sure, if might have Google crap removed. Google still calls the shots on the direction of the browser.
Same still meaningfully applies to Chromium-based browsers.
This is a dumb argument. Yes, my phone uses Linux. How many of the Android users actively come in contact with the underlying system?
Mainstream Linux means a big part of people actively choosing to install a Linux distribution or buy a computer or notebook with a real Linux distro pre installed (not that lightweight barebones distro they preinstall so they can sell it without Windows but with OS).
I use Gentoo, the family PC has OpenSUSE, only my wife’s laptop has Windows… Because guess what, she wants to use what she’s used to, what she knows.
@tslnox@BorgDrone google and android based their flagship products on open source projects they have gone far, far, far out of their way to avoid contributing anything more than the absolute minimum back to, same for AWS and all the rest, it’s blatent exploitation
Apple uses *NIX, it will either become hardware specific versions or Linux where you pay for the OS with the hardware, or be like Red Hat where you pay if you want to do anything.
I love Linux, but I never expect it to be mainstream or even extremely accessible to typical users. In fact, if it made it to mainstream, it’d probably get ruined somehow by corporate interference, monetization, etc. How you may ask? Well, corporations have a lot of money and influence and I’m sure they could “find a way” if motivated to do so.
It already is mainstream. You probably own 10 times as many computers running Linux than Windows without even knowing it.
Desktop computers are a just a tiny part of the market.
Yeah, it did. It’s called Android.
Aren’t there Android versions that don’t have all the Google things and are open source? (GrapheneOS and LineageOS) If you’re just talking about your average android I’m afraid I agree and am an offender myself. (I hope to change that one day though)
Google still controls the source, and so they have influence over the rest.
It’s like Ungoogled Chromium. Sure, it’s open source. Sure, if might have Google crap removed. Google still calls the shots on the direction of the browser.
Same still meaningfully applies to Chromium-based browsers.
That’s good to know.
This is a dumb argument. Yes, my phone uses Linux. How many of the Android users actively come in contact with the underlying system?
Mainstream Linux means a big part of people actively choosing to install a Linux distribution or buy a computer or notebook with a real Linux distro pre installed (not that lightweight barebones distro they preinstall so they can sell it without Windows but with OS).
I use Gentoo, the family PC has OpenSUSE, only my wife’s laptop has Windows… Because guess what, she wants to use what she’s used to, what she knows.
How is that mainstream? Desktop computers (including notebooks) are a niche market.
@tslnox @BorgDrone google and android based their flagship products on open source projects they have gone far, far, far out of their way to avoid contributing anything more than the absolute minimum back to, same for AWS and all the rest, it’s blatent exploitation
Apple uses *NIX, it will either become hardware specific versions or Linux where you pay for the OS with the hardware, or be like Red Hat where you pay if you want to do anything.
The idea is that the base should be open, so you can build whatever you want on top of it.