On the internet, it is common to call a guy a misogynist, but what is the exact meaning of misogynist? Is it 1. A guy who hates women? Or 2. a guy who thinks men are superior. Or 3. A guy who believes in women should follow traditional norms like cooking. 

  • @surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
    38•9 months ago

    These aren’t different things. If you “hate” women, you think little of them. You think you’re better than them. You think they’re dumb baby machines that belong in the kitchen.

    If you do #2 or #3, you also do #1 even if you don’t think you do.

      • Jojo
        11•9 months ago

        my father respects women he just thinks his wife should do all of the house work. [Paraphrased]

        I would venture to say that if your father thinks his wife should do all the house work because she is a woman, then that is, in fact, misogyny (he is not actually respecting her in this case).

        If he thinks she should do all the housework because they’ve talked and she really is happier in the role of homemaker and has chosen that as her life path while he has chosen to work a job that pays well enough to enable that, well then in that case it isn’t necessarily misogyny. But that is just about the only case in which it isn’t, including if she accepted being the homemaker but didn’t or wouldn’t have chosen it over a career if that seemed more feasible.

          • Jojo
            5•9 months ago

            Can you explain how to expect a wife to do housework is hate for women. I know both are wrong but still those are two different things

            Because the only thing that makes a wife different from a husband is the fact that she’s a woman. There is nothing inherently “womanly” or “wifely” about housework, and expecting her to do it all must involve thinking there is: an unjustified prejudice exclusively reserved for women. I.e. misogyny.

              • Jojo
                4•9 months ago

                I think you are confusing gender roles with misogyny

                When gender roles put an undue and unwanted burden on women, when they become a rule, that is misogyny. If they were putting an extra, unwanted burden on men it would be misandry, but that is a much less used term simply because it’s so much less prevalent.

      • AdaEnglish
        7•9 months ago

        he thinks wife should do all the house work

        my father always respects women

        No he doesn’t…

      • @Nefara@lemmy.world
        3•9 months ago

        All wives in all relationships ever? So does that mean your dad thinks all men live in filth? Do gay men all unanimously hire house cleaners? Are gay women the only people he thinks deserve equitable labor division in the home?

        That’s a funny kind of “respect”. I think most people share a different definition of it.