• db0
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    59 months ago

    Go ahead and deploy and maintain “an open, privacy-respecting way to contribute” and I’m sure plenty of FOSS devs will be happy to migrate

    • @toastal@lemmy.ml
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      29 months ago

      Exactly. You should consider it too… at a bare minimum have a bridge. If you are a small project that doesn’t have the funds Libera.chat & OFTC exist to be used for this exact purpose.

      • db0
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        19 months ago

        That’s my point. You can’t ask core devs to do always more work to fit your purity.

        • @toastal@lemmy.ml
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          39 months ago

          It’s not more work–it’s often what should have been chosen in the first place as it meets the minimum requirements for the task, is ‘free’ to use, & isn’t wasteful on resources (both their servers & users’ clients). For those not in a the free/ethical software space this may be untrue, but in the space it’s hypocritical to say your software believes in those values but our communication platforms have a different set of rules. It’s also not just just “purity” but accessibility as Discord has ToS not everyone can agree to & has to comply with US sanctions on who is allowed to use the service that something self or independently-hosted don’t have to deal with. It feels more of the reverse in that you are suggesting communities be poisoned by proprietary platforms.

            • @toastal@lemmy.ml
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              29 months ago

              Most of Discord’s user base doesn’t make software. IRC is just suggested as the bare minimum (v3 having more features, but not widely adopted). There are still other avenues like XMPP that offer roughly equivalent features, or if you like blowing consuming a lot of resources on user machine & risking centralization, Matrix.org is hosting free servers for chat & are slowly rolling out important features like open governance. Either of these options should in theory allow a user to create just one account & join any community with said account.

                • @toastal@lemmy.ml
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                  29 months ago

                  Prosody can double as your UnifiedPush server an any Conversations app can be configured to be a low-bandwidth UnifiedPush client. This would XMPP can fill as role of chat as well as unGoogled notifications. If you use something like JMP you could have a secondary or primary phone number. With some gateways you could puppet some proprietary chats. Seems you can get a lot of value out of that chat app.

          • db0
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            19 months ago

            It is absolutely more work. Like undeniably so. I’ve used both matrix and discord. Matrix is absolutely more work. Especially since there’s even less people to help you run it. Irc is even more. Again unless people volunteer to do it, I don’t have the time.