If Israel wanted to ethnically cleanse they could have been more efficient
This argument keeps getting thrown around, as though doing "onlysome" ethnic cleansing is not still ethnic cleansing or something. China could also exterminate all Uyghurs in Xinjiang at once if they wanted, but that doesn’t make their genocide of Uyghurs any less of a genocide either. Israeli government officials have said in plain terms that they think Palestinians should be moved to the Sinai desert or that other nations should let them take refuge (from Israel) in their states. That is literally advocating ethnic cleansing.
The Sinai option is recent. At this point in time semantics don’t matter. I agree it is ethnic cleansing now. This is what you get when two right wing groups fight.
The excuse of stopping another Oct 7 is weak. A competent government would not have let it happen in the first place. Preventing a repeat would not be difficult. Eliminating Hamas is fantasy as is eliminating the state of Israel.
It would help if the global Left would drop the inflammatory “river to the sea” mantra and instead concentrate on a 2SS.
Point is: hypocrisy does not help conflict resolution.
The global Left refusing to call that genocide (even inventing conspiracies about IDF killing its own people on the day) helped escalate it. It made even moderate Israelis cheer on the retribution which ended up wildly disproportionate and counterproductive.
You seem stuck on seeing any criticism of the Palestinian side as unbridled support for Likud’s agenda.
This argument keeps getting thrown around, as though doing "only some" ethnic cleansing is not still ethnic cleansing or something. China could also exterminate all Uyghurs in Xinjiang at once if they wanted, but that doesn’t make their genocide of Uyghurs any less of a genocide either. Israeli government officials have said in plain terms that they think Palestinians should be moved to the Sinai desert or that other nations should let them take refuge (from Israel) in their states. That is literally advocating ethnic cleansing.
The Sinai option is recent. At this point in time semantics don’t matter. I agree it is ethnic cleansing now. This is what you get when two right wing groups fight.
The excuse of stopping another Oct 7 is weak. A competent government would not have let it happen in the first place. Preventing a repeat would not be difficult. Eliminating Hamas is fantasy as is eliminating the state of Israel.
It would help if the global Left would drop the inflammatory “river to the sea” mantra and instead concentrate on a 2SS.
Oct 7 was also “some ethnic cleansing”. Hamas didn’t even pretend otherwise.
Sure. But what’s your point? Are you saying that makes it more okay for Israel to do it to Palestinians? Otherwise, it just seems like ‘whataboutism’.
Point is: hypocrisy does not help conflict resolution.
The global Left refusing to call that genocide (even inventing conspiracies about IDF killing its own people on the day) helped escalate it. It made even moderate Israelis cheer on the retribution which ended up wildly disproportionate and counterproductive.
You seem stuck on seeing any criticism of the Palestinian side as unbridled support for Likud’s agenda.