• @MisterMoo@lemmy.world
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      353 months ago

      It’s not being more like China. It’s treating them the way they treat us. Simple reciprocity. The same thing is often done when other countries level a tariff against our products.

      • @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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        103 months ago

        It’s not being more like China. It’s treating them the way they treat us.

        So…acting like China acts is not being like China?

        The same thing is often done

        Did nobody ever teach you that two wrongs don’t make a right? Or about the Appeal To Tradition logical fallacy?

        when other countries level a tariff against our products.

        Which rock were you living under when Trump waged his stupid tariff war with China? Nothing good came from that bullshit, least of all for the working class people of both countries.

        • @QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world
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          33 months ago

          It’s not “being like China” so long as the U.S. does not seek to ban platforms from countries that do not ban U.S.-owned platforms.

          The freedom of information should absolutely be bilateral between states, otherwise the permissive state cedes undue influence to the restrictive one.

          • @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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            63 months ago

            Again, Tiktok ≠ China.

            While it can certainly be argued that its ties to the government are problematic, it’s not Tiktok banning US platforms.

            If Tiktok WAS banning platforms for xenophobic reasons (demonstrating intolerance), banning it for that would be prudent as per the paradox of tolerance linked above.

            That isn’t the case, though. The US ban is an intolerant and oppressive violation of the freedom of expression of the users of Tiktok and, yes, even the owners.

            Even if the oppressive Chinese government has a big influence on the platform, that influence hasn’t been proven to cause Tiktok to behave in an intolerant manner, so it’s basically a case of declaring guilt by association.


            The US government could and SHOULD introduce regulations to minimize the amount of data collection and -sharing that Tiktok, Facebook, Twitter, Google and others currently get away with and then punish all transgressions against those regulations.

            AKA regulate and punish bad behavior from anyone doing it, not banning a popular platform guilty only of what congress refuses to try to stop them and others from doing.

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              Again, Tiktok ≠ China.

              Point to where I said TikTok = China lmao

              it’s not Tiktok banning US platforms.

              I also never said TikTok is banning U.S. platforms, either…

              The US government could and SHOULD introduce regulations to minimize the amount of data collection and -sharing that Tiktok, Facebook, Twitter, Google and others currently get away with and then punish all transgressions against those regulations.

              Yes.

              • @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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                13 months ago

                Point to where I said TikTok = China lmao

                I also never said TikTok is banning U.S. platforms

                What you DID say was that it’s ok to ban Tiktok because of the actions of China, namely the banning of some American platforms. That would only make any kind of legal sense if Tiktok indeed WAS China.

                • @QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world
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                  33 months ago

                  Dude, what?

                  You claim that banning TikTok would make sense if TikTok was China. How would the U.S. “ban” China if not for banning Chinese private enterprises from U.S. markets?

                  • @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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                    13 months ago

                    Since you’re slow on the uptake, let me try an equivalent example.

                    Imagine that a UK-based social media based platform is banned im the US for some reason or the other.

                    Would that justify the UK banning Google?

                    The actions of the Chinese government are not the fault or responsibility of Tiktok and as such punishing Tiktok for them is by definition grotesquely unjust.

      • @bouh@lemmy.world
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        83 months ago

        What kind of brainwashed supporter can you be to say such thing? This is about freedom of speach and right of property, the things supposedly sacred in the USA.

        USA is merely demonstrating its hypocrisy here.

      • livus
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        33 months ago

        Except blocking an app is also a treatment of your own citizens.