Biden has literally admitted that the reason cluster munitions are being sent is because US ran through the regular munition stocks.
You’re not going to respond further because you know that the facts aren’t on your side. No amount of name calling and personal insults is going to change that. You’re either an ignoramus or a liar, either way not a good look.
Draining stocks is exactly what the US wants. Are you really this daft and don’t understand this simple point. This is huge money making expedition for the US.
While people making money from the war is certainly a big aspect of all this, the reality is that US can’t produce ammunition at the rate it’s being consumed. Two things can be true at the same time. Eventually, this grift will run its course and it will be the people of Ukraine who suffer in the end being led up the garden path by the west.
I think we’ll find out soon who’s underestimating and who’s overestimating what US is producing. However, all the official sources from US disagree with you right now. And again, Ukraine isn’t a core interest for US and they’re not going to send every last bit of weaponry to Ukraine. Here’s what Obama had to say in 2016:
The reality of the situation is that Russia has a state run military industry that it inherited from USSR, while the west has privatized industry. It’s much easier for Russia to ramp up production than it is for the west.
Finally, there’s China with an industrial base that dwarfs the west. China needs Russia to secure resources and as a shield in the west. The worst possible outcome for China would be if Russia was balkanized by the west and US was able to install puppet regimes there. If Russia ever found itself in a difficult position then China will step in and provide support.
I’m only responding because I actually read the article you linked. Lmfao.
Did you just Google us production and paste the first link that came up without reading it?
From the link YOU provided:
The push comes as the U.S. has supplied Ukraine with more than 1 million artillery rounds, and as Pentagon officials see the war in Ukraine continuing indefinitely, further draining stocks for the U.S. and allies. Bush said it’s unclear what the Ukrainian military’s mid- and long-term needs will be, and the U.S. Army wants to be ready.
“We are in a position to support Ukraine, but it’s more the mid and long term,” Bush said. “By creating this capacity … if this war goes three or four years, we’ll be in a position to just vastly outproduce the Russians all by ourselves ― and if you combine that with our allies, then we’re just dwarfing their capability. They won’t be able to keep up.”
That goes over a whole plan to ramp up production over MANY different weapons and munitions.
Oh, and that 11% manufacturing thing you threw out in another comment?
Bro. USA GDP in 2022 was like $20 Billion. Yes, with a B. Look up the top ten economies of that year. Still with only 11% manufacturing that’s $2.2Billion.
Russia came in 11th at 2Billion. Our tiny 11% manufacturing would come in at 8th place on the world stage.
US industry accounts for only around 11% of its GDP nowadays, and the amount of shells US can produce today is laughable.
Biden has literally admitted that the reason cluster munitions are being sent is because US ran through the regular munition stocks.
You’re not going to respond further because you know that the facts aren’t on your side. No amount of name calling and personal insults is going to change that. You’re either an ignoramus or a liar, either way not a good look.
Draining stocks is exactly what the US wants. Are you really this daft and don’t understand this simple point. This is huge money making expedition for the US.
While people making money from the war is certainly a big aspect of all this, the reality is that US can’t produce ammunition at the rate it’s being consumed. Two things can be true at the same time. Eventually, this grift will run its course and it will be the people of Ukraine who suffer in the end being led up the garden path by the west.
I don’t disagree with the sentiment that Ukrainians aren’t suffering and won’t suffer more because of this. I’m not a fan of the US hegemony.
That being said I think you grossly underestimate the weapons capacity of the US both stockpile and production ability.
Heck I could make that argument about Russia as well…
I think we’ll find out soon who’s underestimating and who’s overestimating what US is producing. However, all the official sources from US disagree with you right now. And again, Ukraine isn’t a core interest for US and they’re not going to send every last bit of weaponry to Ukraine. Here’s what Obama had to say in 2016:
Meanwhile, Russia was producing over a million shells a year even before the war started, and has only increased up production since then
CSIS just published an article admitting that Russia isn’t going to be running out of missiles either https://www.csis.org/analysis/russia-isnt-going-run-out-missiles
tank production in Russia is ramping up too https://bulgarianmilitary.com/2023/06/29/russias-uvz-halts-all-secondary-output-begins-tank-mass-production/
The reality of the situation is that Russia has a state run military industry that it inherited from USSR, while the west has privatized industry. It’s much easier for Russia to ramp up production than it is for the west.
Finally, there’s China with an industrial base that dwarfs the west. China needs Russia to secure resources and as a shield in the west. The worst possible outcome for China would be if Russia was balkanized by the west and US was able to install puppet regimes there. If Russia ever found itself in a difficult position then China will step in and provide support.
I’m only responding because I actually read the article you linked. Lmfao.
Did you just Google us production and paste the first link that came up without reading it?
From the link YOU provided:
The push comes as the U.S. has supplied Ukraine with more than 1 million artillery rounds, and as Pentagon officials see the war in Ukraine continuing indefinitely, further draining stocks for the U.S. and allies. Bush said it’s unclear what the Ukrainian military’s mid- and long-term needs will be, and the U.S. Army wants to be ready.
“We are in a position to support Ukraine, but it’s more the mid and long term,” Bush said. “By creating this capacity … if this war goes three or four years, we’ll be in a position to just vastly outproduce the Russians all by ourselves ― and if you combine that with our allies, then we’re just dwarfing their capability. They won’t be able to keep up.”
That comes from December 2022.
FROM THE SAME SOURCE: Pentagon budget aims to max munitions production, make multiyear buys just a few months ago.
That goes over a whole plan to ramp up production over MANY different weapons and munitions.
Oh, and that 11% manufacturing thing you threw out in another comment?
Bro. USA GDP in 2022 was like $20 Billion. Yes, with a B. Look up the top ten economies of that year. Still with only 11% manufacturing that’s $2.2Billion.
Russia came in 11th at 2Billion. Our tiny 11% manufacturing would come in at 8th place on the world stage.
Cope harder.