I was trying to point out the fact that famine being widespread means that the underlying cause is bigger than politics and ideology. No one knew what the fuck they were doing.

Lysenko had less idea than anyone else about what they were doing. However he was promoted to the Soviet head of agriculture science. And his batshit crazy ideas were pushed by the party. Simply out of a feel-good desire because it aligned with their political beliefs. Literally forcing Farmers to plant the wrong things against their will. And even plow glass and other trash into the fields in China to increase soil volume. Those policies demonstrably made the famine worse. It happened everywhere else in the globe for the most part too but those places did not have tens of millions combined to compare with either Russia or China. And lessenko and the party is to thank for that.

I literally said I also think anarchists have good ideas, I wouldn’t consider myself pure M-L or anything. Back off lol

Anarchists, libertarians, and even leninists have a lot of ideological overlap. We’re socialists after all. Even if leninists are only nomally so. That doesn’t mean you’re a centrist. Because I’ll tell you one area where we anarchist / Libertarians disagree with you wildly. The authoritarian Mono Party bullshit. That you as a solid ml are always around hypocritically pushing. Or that bullshit about Al Franken recently. Perhaps you should take your own advice.

And what is to be done when there aren’t any experts? When all the instructions you have to follow are folk wisdom and superstition?

Seriously. Research Lysenko. It was literally the parties’s rejection of those exact things along with scientific method facts and reality. That compounded the famine and made them rack up the high score. Seriously stop ignoring what’s being said or hand waving it away. I’m not repeating his name for my own health or sanity. It is a prime example of the failures of authoritarianism leninism included.

And as we speak and without any centralized ideology the agricultural industry is destroying our world;

Did you fail to notice modern farming today is largely centrally owned and controlled? It’s not a bunch of little disparate mom and pop shops. There is absolutely a central ideology behind it. Perpetual and impossible growth at all costs. With no focus on sustainability.

There is Authority Beyond threats of imprisonment or murder. This is the reason no one likes leninists. To a leninist winning a debate is my gun to your head or my tank in your face. It isn’t about the strength, authority, or inherent value of your ideas. Often quite the opposite. It’s how you end up with thin-skinned strong men like ole poppy Pooh Bear. Speaking of Xi what are your thoughts on the recent Naomi Wu situation? She had been one of the biggest ambassadors for technology and makers for China and Chinese companies. And giving a face to many of the often too faceless Chinese people. It sure was humanitarian of ole Xi’s thugs to come threaten her and her partner for the mild criticisms she made. And I do mean mild. Seeing as how Wu had previously spent most of her life hiding from the party. Yet still generally supportive and apologetic of how China has been. It’s a good thing China isn’t bigoted/racist. With an axe to grind against lesbians like Wu or uighers like her partner.