ngl russia is not making it easy to give critical support lol

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      Fuck you genuinely, I’m so tired of people having to constantly reaffirm how that they still have support for Russia or whatever just so they can avoid getting shamed for being pissed about homophobia wrong.

      None of the people you @‘d give a single flying fuck about Biden’s state, they want it gone probably more than you. They’re not the ones trying to claim critical support isn’t enough for a capitalist shithole run by one of the fuckers who dissolved the USSR, a shithole that like all capitalist shitholes literally has only “better than the US” as it’s one redeeming quality. You’re the only one here limited by pragmatism, chasing a dream of solidarity from capitalists that will never come.

      I DO support Russia because it’s better than the fucked up, genocidal United States, but my support doesn’t have to extend any further than that. My enemy of my enemy is my friend, but that doesn’t mean I have to accept the fact that they hate entire swathes of people like me and make them outright illegal. They [Edit: meaning, whichever legislators have made homosexuality there illegal] have reactionary beliefs and that is an objective truth.

      No one here is more angry at Russia than Africa or whatever, my critical support extends identically to all of those countries, and will stop being critical once they fix those issues. As they probably will once colonialist influence and material pressure from the US fades!

      Go fuck yourself. And stop assuming people are idiots just so it conforms to your worldview.

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            They told me to fuck off and die repeatedly after one comment saying we shouldnt throw lgbtq people under the bus to support russia lol

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            For instance, fake news is fine if it’s obvious enough that people can complain about it being unfunny. None of the rules make any sense. That’s why this place is going to continue growing at a pace slower than it loses people while transphobia.coding or whatever gets 30,000 users

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              That’s why this place is going to continue growing at a pace slower than it loses people while transphobia.coding or whatever gets 30,000 users

              I’m pretty sure that’s actually because we represent a super fringe ideology within the Anglo-sphere that’s not likely to have a resurgence anytime soon, not cuz our mod policies aren’t airtight

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                It’s a corollary to the issue with trying to ratio a congressperson. Even if you succeed it doesn’t do anything.

                I don’t think we should be making overtures to techbros who are clearly unempathetic in addition to not being materially interested in anti imperialist revolution. like people on the other lemmies. hyper redditors

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                    well, I mean I could go into my rant where I try and describe what I think represents the labor aristocracy in core countries or in India, like there’s a labor aristocracy there that benefits from the sub imperialism very distinctly also, sorry if I don’t take any dictation errors and this is hot

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                    basically everything that makes a guy a redditor, right? like what makes a guy go on the Chicago sub Reddit and become a power poster. It shouldn’t surprise anyone when you find out that these people are like Raytheon weirdos or their landlord do you know

                    go to the people who have the fakest ass job, work at salesforce, any of that shit, or they make their money off of investments are off of finance. Those are not the people we need to propagandize for any reason

                    So what I’m saying is Lenny is a fucking shit hole I don’t care what anyone there thinks. I kind of care what you guys think because like your analysis is interesting to me not just because I like take it as gospel but because like it’s understand me where you’re coming from.

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            That’s the point, it’s fine when people dish it out at me as long as there’s a general perception of righteous nonsense around it. Keep deflecting then hovering whenever you can’t refute a point if you want.

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              Keep deflecting then hovering whenever you can’t refute a point if you want.

              I actually mostly agree with you, was just pointing out you haven’t been exactly sweet as peach cobbler in this thread so, yah know, don’t be surprised if someone tells you to fuck off.

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                Oh yeah as far as hostility related to pointing out international pressure against the Russian govt from you all has clearly backfired. Meanwhile our own govts offer nothing other than meaningless aesthetic victories. I didn’t mean just related to me also incredibly funny idiom.

                Idk you just pop up to say “new site tagline” which I find funny bc it’s part of the whole culture here of flip flopping between demanding people take this highly interchangeable medium of communication seriously as a Cool Hangout Space and telling people they are too online

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                  whole culture here of flip flopping between demanding people take this highly interchangeable medium of communication seriously as a Cool Hangout Space and telling people they are too online

                  Well fyi I lean pretty hard in the “cool hangout space” direction so don’t single me out here. The more serious discussions we have can be informative but let’s be honest, none of this shit we don’t on this niche forum is likely to ever affect anything in the real world. That includes criticizing Russia for its regressive LGBT policies AND supporting it in its fight against NATO.

                  Edit: also did you pull a Ulysses’s and edit your comment without making it clear which part is an edit? Cuz this is reading differently then when I first saw it.

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                  It is both of those things, since they are not contradictory. It is a cool hangout space for way too online leftists who need to touch grass. Posting here is fun, but it is not praxis and we should never ever forget that, even if we never ever log off.