A woman in Florida says her 55-year-old “medically fragile” father was falsely accused of theft at a Florida grocery store last week and then seriously injured in a violent encounter with police. Now, she says, he is hospitalized and has lost the ability to speak.

  • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today
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    10 months ago

    What beating?

    I ctrl-f’d the page for the word “beat” and found nothing. The only claims I see from the daughter or the father (I’m ignoring police claims) of any physical contact with the father are that he was pushed against a car by “nine or 10” of the 8 responding officers who were also arresting her, and then pushed to the ground.

    In the hospital photo provided by the family, I see no bruises, abrasions, or other injuries consistent with a “beating”.

    He interfered with the officers attempting to arrest his daughter, who had just threatened people with a baseball bat; a deadly weapon. Both pushing against a car and pushing to the ground are reasonable uses of force in detaining an uncooperative subject.

    It seems the daughter went bat shit crazy in the store, threatened employees, police responded in force, and dad got between them and the violent criminal they were there to arrest. He was quickly arrested by some of the cops while the others arrested the daughter.

    What do you think they should have done differently, once the daughter had began threatening people with a deadly weapon?

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      Anjelica Lee said her father, who already had a pacemaker, sustained an acute kidney injury in the encounter and is undergoing dialysis. She also said he can barely talk and is disoriented and confused. “He’s waking up panicked,” she said. “He doesn’t know where he’s at. He can no longer feed himself. We have to do that for him. They’re saying that some of the injuries could be long-term.”

      Read instead of ctrl-fing for an exact word i used in an attempt to be a pedantic bootlicker. He’s in the hospital, one of his kidneys is fucked up. But your right. they just pushed him around a little. and, again, he absolutely fucking deserved to have one of his kidneys trashed because he didn’t raise his daughter right.

      Thank you. You have enlightened me on how the world works.

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        I cited all claims of physical contact with the father: a highly exaggerated claim of being pushed against a car, and a claim of being pushed to the ground. Both claims were made by the daughter. I excluded all claims made by police.

        The daughter’s own claims suggest he was interfering with her arrest, telling her to ignore their instructions. The physical force she claims was used against him is consistent and reasonable for a non-compliant subject.

        Based entirely on her biased and exaggerated claims, I’m not seeing how their force was excessive or improper.

        Perhaps video evidence will arise showing something she didn’t see. She’d better hope they do, because her own statements have pretty much ensured police and the city will prevail if she tries to sue.

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          So they lied about his kidney injury? Him being in the hospital altogether is a lie? You say this is appropriate but, you yourself, say at the worst he tried to get them to stop arresting her. Your main claim as to why he deserved what happened to him is what his daughter did. Thats your go to.

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            10 months ago

            Lied? No. Misrepresented? Likely.

            She acknowledged he was in poor health to begin with. She described chronic conditions, as well as acute symptoms occurring immediately prior to the altercation. They stopped at the store because his arms and legs were cramping up “due to an infection,” and he thought potassium would help.

            Infection can cause acute renal failure. One of the early symptoms of acute renal failure is general cramping due to electrolyte imbalances. I think that it rather likely the kidneys were “injured” prior to the altercation and not during it.