• Perfide@reddthat.com
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      29
      ·
      edit-2
      10 months ago

      Yet another instance of “America is actually 50 countries in a trench coat”. Some places here have really, really good quality tap water that tastes ok even without a drinking water filter on the faucet, and other places… well, everyone knows Flint, MI…

  • Aurelian@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    33
    ·
    10 months ago

    South Africa has some really good tap water, can confirm I am drinking it.

  • lemmingrad@thelemmy.club
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    31
    ·
    edit-2
    10 months ago

    What’s the idea behind this meme? That Russia is against tap-water or that Russia is a third-world shithole?

    Because if the later, it reeks of western-white-colonialist supremacy. Blue countries have better infrastructure because they are colonial powers.

    Oh and I absolutely drank water in Bulgaria. This is factually false.

    Meanwhile, placing the US in the “drinkable country” where this happens is laughable:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_water_crisis

    • Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      18
      ·
      10 months ago

      No one would shit on Russia if they didn’t constantly bomb the shit out of their neighbours and commit genocide as a part of their official strategy.

        • Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          edit-2
          10 months ago

          “US does it so it’s cool for Russia too”

          This logic astounds me. It’s possible to be against both, and still recognize that Russia acting in a way that is constantly and actively pursuing war.

          • lemmingrad@thelemmy.club
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            edit-2
            10 months ago

            Russian leadership (fascists) is acting in a way that is constantly and actively pursuing war*

            If Russia is not a democracy, then people cannot be held responsible for the action of their government. No more then in Dresden or Hiroshima. Especially when Westerners (us, who supposedly, them, pick our leaders) are not held responsible for the atrocities committed by their government. Where are the sanctions for the Iraqi war?

            Honestly, it looks like they are preparing the average joe’s mind for carpet bombing. Jingoism on all side.

            • Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              10 months ago

              If Russia is not a democracy, then people cannot be held responsible for the action of their government

              Russia is just as much a democracy as the US. In the US, the electoral college picks the leaders, not the voting body. The electoral college has no legal obligation to follow the popular vote.

              And besides that, Russia really wants to be able to say it’s a democracy. Ask the government there, they will tell you they’re a democracy. Just like the US.

              Trying to insinuate that the American people are responsible for the actions of their government but the Russian people are not is pretty close to Russia apologist. Either the average Russian is responsible for changing their country or the average American is not. You don’t get both.

              Where are the Iraq War sanctions?

              Again, it’s possible to say that what the US did was wrong and still understand that what Russia is doing is also wrong. Bringing the “whatabout” argument at this point is deliberate deflection if you understand that you’re arguing with someone who agrees with you.

              • lemmingrad@thelemmy.club
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                10 months ago

                Either the average Russian is responsible for changing their country or the average American is not. You don’t get both.

                Yes, exactly, none of them are.

                Again, it’s possible to say that what the US did was wrong and still understand that what Russia is doing is also wrong.

                What the Russian government is doing is wrong, absolutely. It’s not a reason to fall into jingoism and stupid stereotypes.

                Bringing the “whatabout” argument at this point is deliberate deflection if you understand that you’re arguing with someone who agrees with you.

                But the map is literally placing France and the US in “the good guys”. Whataboutism is when you bring out things out of the blue that aren’t being disgusted already.

                • Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  10 months ago

                  Ok, and?

                  The US pulled out of its wars. They may not be the good guy on the world stage in a cumulative sense, but their leaders pulled out of their wars and aren’t picking any fights. Despite what you might think, wars aren’t popular in the US either.

                  Russia is actively being the bad guy right now.

                  Whataboutism is when you bring out things out of the blue that aren’t being disgusted already.

                  Nobody said anything about Iraq. You sort of brought that up out of nowhere, as if to say what about when it was different?

                  In any case, if all of this is about a meme labeling some countries good and some countries bad, a meme that isn’t even trying to be accurate on either front, maybe you should ask yourself why you care so much that you’re starting fires about how the west is just as bad?

                  You don’t think the average person on lemmy hears that from the lurking tankies every single day? You’re pretty much preaching to the choir here.

        • mellowheat@suppo.fi
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          edit-2
          10 months ago

          Well not neighbors. We go all the way to the other side of the planet to do it.

          /s?

        • Honytawk@lemmy.zip
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          10 months ago

          I shit plenty on the US for that too.

          But Russia is directly affecting the sphere of influence my country has, so shitting on them is a lot more prudent.

    • Floey@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      10 months ago

      Love how you’re getting downvoted for calling out a fascist meme, and people say this platform is “leftist”. 🙄

    • themelm@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      10 months ago

      Canada should have an asterisc for all the reserves without clean water too. Of course not many tourists going to those.

  • gennygameshark@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    29
    ·
    10 months ago

    I just want to say a a resident of the US Midwest, don’t drink the tap water here - it won’t actually kill you but you’ll wish you were dead 😝

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      10 months ago

      I can’t say it’s still like this, but when I was in Kansas City about 20 years ago, the hotel waiter poured me a glass of water and it tasted amazing and he said it was just tap water.

    • aidan@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      9 months ago

      I’m from from between the south and midwest- and my city water utility always bragged about how its supposedly some of the best tapwater in the world.

  • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    29
    ·
    10 months ago

    Hey, I’m not unfriendly. I like Russian escorts and vodka.

    I just wish their leaders would be a little more friendly to the rest of the world.

      • TimLovesTech (AuDHD)(he/him)@badatbeing.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        15
        ·
        10 months ago

        The US has many places where drinking the water is not safe, not that people are just choosing not to. I’m sure the people of Flint would be psyched to be able to actually drink tap water again.

        The places with forever chemical contamination are also growing.

        • ricecake@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          25
          ·
          10 months ago

          You might consider updating your thoughts. The water in Flint has been fixed for several years.

          The water mains damaged by corrosion were replaced, and the vast majority of household service lines have been replaced.

          It’ll take time before people trust the water system fully again, but it’s been independently tested and shown to be fine, with continued monitoring as part of the lawsuit settlement.

        • partial_accumen@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          12
          ·
          10 months ago

          The US has many places where drinking the water is not safe, not that people are just choosing not to. I’m sure the people of Flint would be psyched to be able to actually drink tap water again.

          Sure, but a town with a population of 80k people doesn’t define a nation. The vast majority of Americans have safe tap water available to drink.

      • Johandea@feddit.nu
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        edit-2
        10 months ago

        Aren’t “never drinking” and “drinking at least sometimes” collectively exhaustive? So what do the remaining 17% do with their tap water?

        Edit: I can’t count this late

        • Cethin@lemmy.zip
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          10 months ago

          Always drink tap water? I don’t know how you do that, but whatever. Maybe it means when there’s a choice they always choose tap? Idk.

        • Scubus@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          10 months ago

          Wash dishes, bathe, water plants, water balloons, electrolysis, all the good stuff

          Can’t speak for everywhere but where I live the water is safe, it just tastes TERRIBLE

          Like I’ve accidently tasted deodorant that tasted better

        • partial_accumen@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          10 months ago

          I’m reading the article you posted as well as a few others I found to explain the science, risk, and scale.

          This feels like you’re posting it as more alarmist than it is:

          • Its not the result of industrial pollution, as it is sometimes elsewhere in the world.
          • This looks like its also a small pocket of population (70,000 people according to your article which is even less than Flint Michigan at its worst)
          • California is following a stricter standard double that of the Federal requirement and even then…
          • …none of the samples exceed the extra strict safe standards of 50 ppb “The highest reading from a single well came to 42 parts per billion”
        • partial_accumen@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          13
          ·
          10 months ago

          Unless you’re drinking exclusively spring water, your bottled water is coming from someone else’s municipal tap with an extra fee for bottling on top.

  • Gabu@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    24
    ·
    9 months ago

    Imagine thinking US tapwater (where some places are known to have a dizzying amount of contaminants) is more drinkable than Brazilian tapwater, which is actually clean.

    • Calavera@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      9 months ago

      Depending where in Brazil you are talking about. In Rio de Janeiro for example even public authorities recommend you to not drink tap water.

      • Gabu@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        9 months ago

        Well, Rio is kind if a hellhole. They suffer from excessive unregulated housing, with too many people living in favelas and accessing utilities from illegal taps – uncontrollable circumstances –, plus their political class is actual scum.

    • GenEcon@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      edit-2
      10 months ago

      You know that people can google ‘south Africa tap water’, right?

      First result from southafrica.net: ‘tap water is safe to drink in urban areas’. So even the official sources are claiming only urban areas to be safe. If you scroll down to the 2nd result it says ‘47 % of municipal tap water is now classified as non-revenue water’ and ‘46 % of the drinking water systems are safe to drink’

      • KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        9 months ago

        Pretty sure it’s like that in a lot of places… But, even when living 200km from civilization, in a tiny town in the desert, the water from the tap was safe to drink. In the 34 years I lived there I never once got sick from drinking water from the tap.

  • lemmyvore@feddit.nl
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    18
    ·
    9 months ago

    Ironically, the second map is pretty wrong. You’re more likely to be able to drink the tap water in the Balkans for example than in some Western countries.

  • Hegar@kbin.social
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    18
    ·
    10 months ago

    Looks like Bosnia & Herzegovina and Serbia and get a pass on being unfriendly countries, presumably because they aren’t in NATO (despite B&H being an aspiring member).

    However Switzerland, Lichtenstein and Austria, also not in NATO, are still unfriendlies.

    Poor Hungary is still counted as unfriendly as they actively run interference on Moscow’s behalf.