• jol@discuss.tchncs.de
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      21
      ·
      edit-2
      10 months ago

      Actually as a kid I realized that what I was taught in the bible and church were metaphors and not things to be taken literally. I mean, a lot of it went against what we learned in school, and school actually made sense.

      Only much later in my teens did I realize that many Christians do take the Bible literally. It was then that I decided to completely abandon my religion.

      • RBWells@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        10 months ago

        Same, as a little kid I had no idea the adults actually BELIEVED what they were telling us, it just seemed like stories. I was so confused when I found out they believed it was all real. Then again when as a pre-teen I found out they thought homosexuality was against the rules - love? They thought love was wrong? I had gone to church for so long and that idea had never crossed my mind.

        • jol@discuss.tchncs.de
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          10 months ago

          I remember having my first same-sex crush when I was around 11 years old. Unfortunately around 10-11 was also when I started to learn that “gay” was a slur and a shameful thing, and a bit later that it was a sin too. I would fall into deep self hate and internalised homophobia for the following 10 years…

          • RBWells@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            5
            ·
            10 months ago

            I’m straight as a board, and it was the earlyish 1980s so a more backwards time but I still found it utterly shocking. I remember it so clearly. It was a youth group evening and they were talking about sex, when they started talking about homosexuality I absolutely anticipated they were going to talk about the issue of hate towards gay people, so when they went in the other direction I was floored.

      • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        10 months ago

        I have never understood the metaphor argument. When I was a believer I believed it all literally. If this stuff is a metaphor then what it is a metaphor for? Also if it is a metaphor how come (especially in the prophets) the Bible spends so much time listing metaphors and then explaining them? How come when the Bible self-references it treats itself literally?

        Adam and Eve were the literal truth to Paul and he used it to create his theology of original sin.

    • Waldowal@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      15
      ·
      10 months ago

      Yes, and now, anytime I’m trying to get to know someone better, I’m strategizing as to what childish/dirty joke or well placed cuss word will break through the “fake wall” and allow me to really know this person.

  • Bryony87@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    46
    ·
    10 months ago

    When I was about 10 I realized that people of other religions probably felt just as strongly that their religion is “true” as I felt about mine and that I had no grounds to look down on them.

    Fast forward 10 years and I became an atheist.

    • 0ops@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      13
      ·
      10 months ago

      Not to mention all of those who believed in a religion that’s fallen into myth, or even been completely forgotten by history. Thor was someone’s Jesus

  • WoahWoah@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    44
    ·
    edit-2
    10 months ago

    Friends can matter to you more than family, and that’s ok, but family does a lot more for you than you realize.

    I didn’t have a great family, but it was only when I was upset about a birthday party when I was like 12 where my mom made all the cards and buttons and stuff and I was so mad that it wasn’t the cool cards and prizes that you buy that I kind of realized it.

    It dawned on me like two weeks later that my parents couldn’t afford any of that, but they took time out of their day, for like two weeks, even though they both worked too much, to hand-make approximations as best they could. Without me knowing, so I would be surprised.

    Ever work a double shift and then spend the few minutes you have not working, sleeping, or cooking to hand-make party favors? Yeah, me either.

    It still makes me cry thinking about how ungrateful I was and the look of sadness and yearning on my mom’s face when I got mad at her for not buying the “good” stuff.

    When I was 20, I sat her down and told her about it and how bad I felt, and how I never knew how to apologize for it. We had a good cry, and she thanked me for seeing it eventually, and how happy it retroactively made her knowing I realized it so soon after.

  • EndOfLine@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    43
    ·
    10 months ago

    I used to spend a lot of energy being concerned what other people thought of me. How I dressed, how I acted, what I owned, etc. One day I realized 2 things:

    1. Most people are too busy thinking about themselves to spare any meaningful thoughts for me.

    2. I’m never going to see most of these people ever again so it doesn’t matter what they think.

    After that I started directing that energy into making sure that I approved of my choices rather than hoping strangers would.

    • neidu2@feddit.nl
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      17
      ·
      10 months ago

      Similar experience. Got in a bad accident when I was 15, entirely my own doing. That’s when I learned that some mistakes and their injuries are permanent.

  • forty2@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    32
    ·
    10 months ago

    Say what you mean; mean what you say.

    No idea where I heard or read it, but preteen me internalized it and it’s become part of my creed to this day

  • toasteecup@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    31
    ·
    10 months ago

    I can learn everything I need to know about how to be a decent person from cartoons.

    Cartoons have always shown me that being a friendly person, who is honest, do right by their friends and tries to do the right thing will guide me well through life. I needed to weed through the friends a little bit but that has held true thus far

  • amio@kbin.social
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    20
    ·
    10 months ago

    In school, I happened to notice exactly when some random topic went from “uh, I guess I kinda understand this” to having it actually “click”. That clued me off to the difference between e.g. knowing a bunch of shitty formulae, and actually understanding the topic to the point where you can actually use it for problem solving. Also, that all the teaching and books I received revolved 100% around the former.

    • Pyro@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      12
      ·
      10 months ago

      I had that moment when learning to code. I had like 98% or what I needed to know. Then one day I came across some random SO post, learned something that I really should have learned a while ago (the difference between static classes and instantiated classes, yes really) and then everything just fell into place and I realised I could actually write proper code now. It was a fun moment :)

      • 0ops@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        10 months ago

        For me it was variables. I know it’s as basic as you can get here. But when I figured out that I could store data in a little box to get later I was like “oh, I can do anything with this”

    • intensely_human@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      10 months ago

      Also, that all the teaching and books I received revolved 100% around the former.

      This is true, because understanding comes from practice. The teacher and the books can never create that click of understanding. Only the student’s side of the effort can do that.

  • LadyLikesSpiders@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    18
    ·
    10 months ago

    People hate what they fear and fear what they don’t understand. The path, then, to fight against hate is specifically understanding

    I learned this by watching The Crocodile Hunter as a child. I remember very vaguely a point Steve Irwin made about how people are terrified and act to harm animals they know nothing about. Either he went on to further say, or I extrapolated it myself, that knowing how an animal will act informs YOU on how to approach the situation; No need for fear or hate if you understand the reality of the situation. I then further extrapolated this race relations. It’s a little general, but a white person may be racist against a black person because they think they’re dangerous, just as someone might see a snake they know nothing about and think it dangerous

      • Passerby6497@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        10
        ·
        10 months ago

        We’re all going to die some day, and he died doing what he loved and still wanted to protect the animal that killed him. He helped many more animals than he was hurt by, so I call that a win overall.

    • Ashy@lemmy.wtf
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      10 months ago

      Yeah, you should never mistread animals unless you can profit from it through a TV show. He was truly inspirational.

  • Lokiya@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    17
    ·
    10 months ago

    I’m bad at decisions so I will name a few that stuck with me:

    1. In 5th grade I realize that lines are hypothetical and all that really exists are line segments. (My teacher basically said yes, but you’re confusing the class shut up.)
    2. There are lies in all truths and truths in all lies. (A mantra I had).
    3. The best way to get your way is to let someone else be the leader, act as the compromiser between the most disparate view points by saying you’re adding ideas of both sides, but actually give your positions and lipservice to the others, then finally make it all seem like this was literally everyone else’s idea and not yours. Ex. Working in a group project of 4 people to create a alternate energy model. A wants to make a wind turbine and it needs to be yellow. D wants solar panels made from copper. B just wants to do what’s easiest. So you suggest a crank powered flash light that uses copper wiring, because it captures A’s desire to have a kinetic energy conversion and using the copper wire shows D’s desire to prove the usefulness of copper in alternative energy designs. A and D didn’t say that’s why they wanted the designs, but by making the argument in a good light and attributing it to them it makes them much more likely to go along. I believe my 4th grade teacher saw what I was doing as she had us do a lot of group work because after a while she had me do my own thing.
  • Olhonestjim@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    17
    ·
    edit-2
    10 months ago

    Negative numbers. I just asked if there were numbers below zero when I was like 4, and my mom about pissed herself. Not that it stopped her from homeschooling me into ignorance instead.

  • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    17
    ·
    10 months ago

    I was about 11 or so and acting out, my teacher said my name. I just froze for a moment and it dawned on me that was the first time he had said my name all day. Completely invisible unless I was doing something wrong. Just a square shape in a square hole unless I choose otherwise and if I do it by making my life worse.

    I guess it doesn’t sound profound. Every guy knows this on some level but it really knocked the wind out of me at the time.

  • Sagrotan@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    16
    ·
    10 months ago

    “Family” isn’t what you are born in, it’s what you decide and stand for. Fuck that kind of “family” I was born with, these useless, manipulative, egoistic, stupid waste of oxygen.