Decades of presidents on both sides of the aisle have supported and sent arms to Israel.
It’s unfortunate (for everyone, especially the poor Palestinians) that Netenyahu is such a fucking creep and sleazeball that he manufactured this whole thing to distract from his deep shittiness. Biden happened to be the guy in the hot seat.
What do you mean he “happened to be the guy in the hot seat”? He gleefully sent more bombs during an ongoing genocide, no one really forced his hand did they?
Ok ok.
But in a few months time the realistic choice (unless trump goes to prison and is disqualified) is Biden vs Trump and I don’t think there’s any choice there whatsoever.
Biden helped build that alliance for over 37 years now, thats how old that clip is. And he explicitly says that they would have to “invent an israel if it didn’t exist”. This man is not in some moral quandary, this is what he wants, what he wanted for a long time.
Simple rules for rulers. You don’t become president of the US if you don’t commit genocide for all the rest of the people who want it; they ultimately elect you afterall. But remember if you aren’t president of the US, you can’t enfore any change at all, you have no power.
The most benevolent presidents will still continue to feed the war machine because they wish to be president and enact good. Biden just happened to be in the hotseat in this case, and if it has been Trump there would be war all over europe, nato disbanded and Russia getting Military funds instead.
Biden was not reluctant in his aid to genocide, he was gleeful. This wasn’t some lesser of two evils shit for him, this is what he wanted what he worked towards for decades.
Just because I keep having to spell this out preemptively:
150million USD in equipment - 106 million USD as price = 44 million USD in military aid to an ongoing genocide without requiring approval from congress. Gleeful.
I’m not wrong, says right there in your article he had to “bypass congress” to send the measly 150 mil to uphold US relations because half of your government is trying to sabotage the other half no matter the cost, reasons or means. Do you know the difference between 150 mil and 40 billion? You’re being played by these numbers that Biden “bypassed” out, the entire US government funds Israel.
Go read up on how your government works and then we can chat. Start by your own article
The sad part is that’s probably true. Before that was Trump, Dronebama, and Bush - all four of them continued to support Israel so that’s a moot point when comparing them.
The same on the concentration camps on the border, the same on the policies in the middle east, the same on women and minority rights, they just all look the same don’t they.
In my opinion Biden supporters are either the meme for “illusion of choice” or just anti-Trump, there are very few actual Biden supporters (More than half of Americans have disapproved of Biden for most of his term). These DNC party leaders are so tone-deaf, it starts to feel like they either actually want Trump (Presumably so Establishment A and Establishment B can continue to act blameless for their horridness) or are so disconnected from John Q Public that they could never represent us. I always ask and am only ever downvoted as to why I should fear that Trump can run a dictatorship to strip all rights within 24 hours of inauguration but Biden cannot even act to protect established rights after having years to do so.
Not in terms of policies enacted. The concentration camps on the border were built by Obama and continued and expanded by both Trump and Biden, there is no discernible difference between them on immigration. Roe v Wade was never codified, Trans rights aren’t codified, nothing is getting done. The Iran deal just died and that’s it, Biden made no effort to reverse the stuff Trump did. At best some lip service “commitments” like the Paris Agreement. There was more covid relief under Trump than under Biden. Like what harm has the “harm reduction” candidate reduced?
Manufactured outrage. It’s not like he could legally do another term after he’s elected in ‘24.
He’s extremely competent, ethical, and experienced.
Genocide Joe is the most ethical president the US had in a while.
Edit: to all the people trying to paint him as being in the “hot seat” (wtf lol), he wanted and worked towards this for a long time now
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4962369/user-clip-joe-biden-israel-usa-invent-israel-protect-interest-region
Decades of presidents on both sides of the aisle have supported and sent arms to Israel.
It’s unfortunate (for everyone, especially the poor Palestinians) that Netenyahu is such a fucking creep and sleazeball that he manufactured this whole thing to distract from his deep shittiness. Biden happened to be the guy in the hot seat.
What do you mean he “happened to be the guy in the hot seat”? He gleefully sent more bombs during an ongoing genocide, no one really forced his hand did they?
It’s not quite as simple as that. But I agree that it ain’t a good look.
It kind of is though, his stance has been well known for a while now
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4962369/user-clip-joe-biden-israel-usa-invent-israel-protect-interest-region
What Israel is doing is horrible. Don’t get me wrong.
Biden inherited a long-standing strategic alliance which was not ideal.
Biden helped to create that alliance lol.
Ok ok. But in a few months time the realistic choice (unless trump goes to prison and is disqualified) is Biden vs Trump and I don’t think there’s any choice there whatsoever.
Biden helped build that alliance for over 37 years now, thats how old that clip is. And he explicitly says that they would have to “invent an israel if it didn’t exist”. This man is not in some moral quandary, this is what he wants, what he wanted for a long time.
Simple rules for rulers. You don’t become president of the US if you don’t commit genocide for all the rest of the people who want it; they ultimately elect you afterall. But remember if you aren’t president of the US, you can’t enfore any change at all, you have no power.
The most benevolent presidents will still continue to feed the war machine because they wish to be president and enact good. Biden just happened to be in the hotseat in this case, and if it has been Trump there would be war all over europe, nato disbanded and Russia getting Military funds instead.
Biden was not reluctant in his aid to genocide, he was gleeful. This wasn’t some lesser of two evils shit for him, this is what he wanted what he worked towards for decades.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4962369/user-clip-joe-biden-israel-usa-invent-israel-protect-interest-region
the one good thing Trump threatened to do (he won’t actually do it).
Lmao “gleeful”. I think you misunderstand how your government works. Congress allocates the money, the president executes the spending.
Wrong again
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/29/politics/biden-congress-israel-military-aid/index.html
Just because I keep having to spell this out preemptively:
150million USD in equipment - 106 million USD as price = 44 million USD in military aid to an ongoing genocide without requiring approval from congress. Gleeful.
I’m not wrong, says right there in your article he had to “bypass congress” to send the measly 150 mil to uphold US relations because half of your government is trying to sabotage the other half no matter the cost, reasons or means. Do you know the difference between 150 mil and 40 billion? You’re being played by these numbers that Biden “bypassed” out, the entire US government funds Israel.
Go read up on how your government works and then we can chat. Start by your own article
The president sold weapons for Netanyahu’s genocide and didn’t have to go through congress to do it.
You’re pulling the “you don’t know how government works” Standard Centrist Gaslighting because you can’t defend Biden’s support for genocide.
Genocide is an american problem, not a presidential one lmao.
It’s baked into the very soul of the nation.
The sad part is that’s probably true. Before that was Trump, Dronebama, and Bush - all four of them continued to support Israel so that’s a moot point when comparing them.
The same on the concentration camps on the border, the same on the policies in the middle east, the same on women and minority rights, they just all look the same don’t they.
Did I say they’re the same, or did I say Biden was the best/least worse of the most recent 4?
Im saying they’re the same. Or close enough to not matter.
Well I’m not, there’s a clear difference on them when it comes to minority/women’s rights.
Roe v wade got ganked on Biden’s watch. You heard him say anything about it since?
Right I forgot he was in charge of the supreme court lol
In my opinion Biden supporters are either the meme for “illusion of choice” or just anti-Trump, there are very few actual Biden supporters (More than half of Americans have disapproved of Biden for most of his term). These DNC party leaders are so tone-deaf, it starts to feel like they either actually want Trump (Presumably so Establishment A and Establishment B can continue to act blameless for their horridness) or are so disconnected from John Q Public that they could never represent us. I always ask and am only ever downvoted as to why I should fear that Trump can run a dictatorship to strip all rights within 24 hours of inauguration but Biden cannot even act to protect established rights after having years to do so.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/01/22/statement-from-president-joe-biden-on-the-50th-anniversary-of-the-roe-v-wade-decision/
You hear any of the other 3 say anything?
Not in terms of policies enacted. The concentration camps on the border were built by Obama and continued and expanded by both Trump and Biden, there is no discernible difference between them on immigration. Roe v Wade was never codified, Trans rights aren’t codified, nothing is getting done. The Iran deal just died and that’s it, Biden made no effort to reverse the stuff Trump did. At best some lip service “commitments” like the Paris Agreement. There was more covid relief under Trump than under Biden. Like what harm has the “harm reduction” candidate reduced?
Good job, soldier. 🫡
“That’s the way we’ve always done it” is a really shitty justification for supporting genocide.
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