• blight [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    I think you missed her point, she’s saying that westerners have a narrow view of what even counts as “democracy”.

    Iosif V. Dzhugashvili quote

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      I mean, certainly one could pick out a few test cases to indicate a democracy. Do the citizens have the apparent right to…

      • criticize the government freely
      • due process and unpartial justice
      • fair treatment of minority groups
      • run for office when qualified
      • free press

      The US has a lot of headwinds on this short list but at least I am aware of the atrocities it has committed, can ask questions without being disappeared, and can theoretically run for office without being shot. Our democracy is ugly as hell, but at least I can see it. I question all governments that claim some higher ground.

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        1 year ago

        criticize the government freely

        How many peaceful protesters got bagged in unmarked vans in 2020?

        Also the Chicago PD have black sites where they would disappear people without cause and their families would not be notified.

        due process and unpartial justice

        Yeah it would really suck to be locked up for years without a trial.

        fair treatment of minority groups

        Yeah that’s definitely not a thing in the US I’m not even sure how you could possibly think that it is unless you got kicked in the head by a donkey.

        run for office

        Okay…

        when qualified

        Who determines this qualification?

        free press

        It’s really easy for the press to be free when the same multinational corporations that the US works on behalf of also own the “free” press.

        It’s really interesting that you didn’t mention the one thing that I think a democracy actually has to have: representation/reflection of the will of the citizenry.

        • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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          How many peaceful protesters got bagged in unmarked vans in 2020? Also the Chicago PD have black sites where they would disappear people without cause and their families would not be notified

          “Heh, don’t you know, hexchanner, that not all cops are bad and a few bad apples don’t condemn our great system of burgerland freedom?” smuglord

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        due process and unpartial justice

        fair treatment of minority groups

        The US

        michael-laugh

        I question all governments that claim some higher ground.

        Wow, such insight. I’m glad we have such an enlightened person in our midst to tell us that what if, like, all governments are bad, man? smuglord (and by that I mean China bad)