Confirmed by AP news here (go directly to slide 4 in the slideshow for more information)
For those who don’t want to click the link:
Being a leftist and knowing the actual history seems like some kinda clown-car damnation from time to time. This is one of those times.
I wouldn’t say there’s a correlation in knowing the actual history. Those guys are just modest about the Nazi part, but well aware of it. They just want to reduce the attack surface.
So calling them Nazis and treating as such is fair.
Always important to point out that more Ukrainian fought in the Red Army in WW2 than with the Nazi collaborators. Just to piss off the “national liberation” crowd.
Zelensky’s fucking grandpa fought for the Soviets
Like, an entire additional digit more
a lot more, I want to say like 8 times as many but I don’t remember clearly
From basic googling I found ~250,000 Ukrainian collaborators in various ways and 7 million Ukrainians in the Red Army, 4 million in the Ukraine campaign alone.
The word nazi doesn’t even appear in that AP article what the fuuuuck
Not even the words “SS” or “German”. The average unbiased, unpropagandized westerner will read the caption and think “whoa wholesome Ukrainian military unit”
I think you guys are being a bit over the top here about his:
Germans made three political concessions: It was stipulated that the division shall not be used to fight Western Allies, and would be used exclusively to “fight Bolsheviks”. The other concession was in that its oath of allegiance to Hitler was conditional on the fight against Bolshevism.
Good thing there’s no link between anti communism and fascism
Bolshevism didn’t exist during WWII, therefore the Ukrainian SS division wasn’t actually loyal to Hitler
had me in the first half
Things the ‘good guys’ do:
Bring out and parade around a Nazi for applause while brazenly lying about his actual identity and the nature of his service
In the 50s and 60s, the easiest way to gain entry into Canada for immigration was to show a Nazi tattoo. This proved one was ideologically anti-communist and thus safe.
Yes he took the oath of allegiance to the head nazi, but how do we know he was actually a nazi and not just a brave freedom fighter?
Completely on brand and absolutely no one in the MSM sphere will question who was fighting against the Russians in WW2
Right this way 
I did not have that on my bingo card for this year.
I definitely did, it was easy to see the liberals slipping into fascism from the very start
when are we going to hear about brave resistance to the Russians liberating Auschwitz
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I sent this to my libertarian-turned-lib friend and he immediately said, “Oh he must have been Ukranian Resistance after the war.” But they said he fought in WWII. “Oh well it was late in the war and he didn’t get convicted of any war crimes.” Libs refuse to believe that any Ukrainian can do wrong throughout history now. Canada is apologizing profusely today because they “didn’t know the guy was a Nazi.”
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When someone claims to be an anarchist but they support NATO its just… ok you SAY you’re against all states but somehow you’re for a military alliance of multiple… states? Thats not anarchism anymore.
Like I may disagree heavily with anarchists who include AES states in their “I"m against all states” stuff but if they are actually consistent about hating states and hate the imperialist powers too then like, at least thats consistent. But so often its not that way. Being “anti-authoritarian” just ends up being an excuse to follow the US state department line to a T.
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Really not beating the supporting Nazis allegations with this
This is not even about supporting Ukraine anymore. It’s just glorification of Nazis.
It was easily predicted that the west wouldn’t liberalize Ukraine, but that Ukraine would fascitize the west (even further).
Liberalism morphs into fascism when threatened under war conditions. Of course the west would become extra fascist from getting heavily involved with a war on behalf of fascists. It’s so frustrating that we could see this was going to happen but could do nothing to stop it.
Liberalism morphs into fascism when threatened under war conditions
that’s not remotely how it works
fascism is an ideology that tends to crop up in societies where hiring gangs of thugs to brutalise people is an accepted and common part of the economy and political system and there is a threat of communism to react to
Wrong. Liberalism and fascism are the same exact thing under different parts of the capitalist cycle. They are the same people fighting for the same interests.
If fascism requires a credible communist threat, why is it so widespread in Ukraine where there is no serious socialist center of power or movement? Fascism does require anti-communism, but it doesn’t require actual communists to oppose, just the Spectre of one in their imagination. It will find a suitable scapegoat and label it cultural marxist (as seen by the labeling of the Russian’s as “the new USSR” and conspiracies about Putin being controlled by the “commie Jews” or the “chicoms”)
Fascism does arise in crumbling capitalist states in periods of crisis, that much is true which is why I said it’s Liberalism under bad conditions.
societies where hiring gangs of thugs to brutalise people is an accepted and common part of the economy and political system
So cops?
Who scratched Canada?
canada doesn’t need to be scratched, canadians are desperate to prove that we can hang with the big boys aren’t aren’t just a peripheral resource extraction colony on the edge of empire. nobody takes Canada all that seriously so our politicians have to go out of their way to telegraph that we are as fascist as our allies
hahahahahahahahaAmerica, no! Sorry, force of habit.
There’s actually large Ukrainian exile groups living in Canada, including some linked to OUN-B (Organization Ukrainian Nationalists - Bandera faction)
https://banderalobby.substack.com/p/the-canadian-bandera-network
Here’s a Ukrainian-Canadian high school student holding a picture of the genocidal Yaroslav Stetsko
Here’s a bunch of Ukrainian-Canadian children in front of a giant bust of the genocidal Roman Shukhevych
Some info about Stetsko/Shukhevych (source: https://archive.md/GZa2H):
Just goes to show you that the war against fascism is global. There is no “fleeing” to places like Canada to get away from this shit. You must arm yourself and get ready to kill fascists within your life time.
The color of the shirts on the first photo, eh, does check out.
Parading around the OUN flag… That really disturbs me. No liberal has learned anything from the holocaust except “history repeats itself”, pretending it’s a law of physics.
No liberal has learned anything from the holocaust except “history repeats itself”, pretending it’s a law of physics.
They sure seem to want it to repeat itself as many times as needed
Our Deputy Prime Minister Christian Freeland was more than happy to pose behind the banner last year
She was also probably the first person to trot out the “mentioning Ukrainian nazis is Russian propaganda!” line when asked why her grandfather worked for a nazi propaganda rag.
Legit, if I found out my child’s school in a “progressive country” made students march around honoring nazis, I would tell my kid to become a bully
Absolutely fucked.
How old would that make this dude?
Not too old to be
hypothetically pushed down a flight of stairsput on trial for volunteering to fight for the nazisDude is 98
Holy shit "people that fought in the nazi army were nazos is Russian propaganda.
Anybody else notice how this “Russian propoganda” has had a way stronger connection to reality than the libs explanation of everything for the last couple years.
I hate this so much. This country is unsalvageable
