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            8 months ago

            You’re getting stabbed whatever happens.

            Would you rather get stabbed in the finger or stabbed in the eye?

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                  Have fun refusing to admit Biden is flawed.

                  Surely the status quo is the solution to stopping Trump and the growing threat of the right.

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                    I have not seen a single person try and claim that Biden isn’t flawed. It’s entirely possible to criticize him and still vote for him given the only other possibility. Until we get away from FPTP voting there is only two options for president in the general election. You wont get away from FPTP voting until you can overrule the GOP in Congress. You cannot do that without winning elections.

                    The people you’re arguing with aren’t devoted to Biden. He’s simply the only way we can keep Trump from retaking office at this moment. He’s also done a lot of good things during his term. I’d argue he’s been a net benefit to the country given the context.

                    We absolutely need to primary Biden and everyone like him, that work has to be done but that shit takes work and time. It’s a lot easier to do when we can bring more people into the tent. Painting both parties as equally bad and not worthwhile of your vote is literally making it harder to reform the Democratic Party and actually achieve the things progressives are fighting for.

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                    Saying he isn’t 100% perfect is either what you mean by flawed or you have a ridiculously high level of perfection to call him flawed.

                    Must be the latter.

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                    Surely the status quo is the solution to stopping Trump

                    Correct. Biden winning the election will stop Trump winning the election.

                    and the growing threat of the right.

                    Stopping Trump will do more to stop the growing threat of the right than not stopping Trump.

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              The third option is to reject the United States and replace it with something that isn’t an oligarchy

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        Do y’all just, sincerely not understand what “lesser evil” means? Yes, the lesser evil is still bad. We know. That’s what “evil” means. Both options suck, one sucks measurably more, so you choose the one that is less bad.

        None of these “Both sides!” Leftists ever seem to offer specific or workable alternatives. It’s always something vague like “Have our voices be heard, take back the country from the oligarchs!” And I feel that, but like, how? What specific candidate or action is going to prevent both from winning?