• SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz
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    9 months ago

    “YoU kNoW tHoSe PiLlS aRe BaD fOr YoU!”

    Cool. Next best option is me being unable to function and longing for death while my brain craves any type of happiness, forcing me to engage in potentially harmful and unhealthy habits to get any hit of happy chemicals that my brain struggles to make naturally.

    I’ll keep taking the pills, thanks.

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      But the pills are bad for you!

      Well, maybe not you specifically, but they are not to be taken willy-nilly. They often have quite severe side effects, withdrawal syndromes, and, in some cases, long lasting or even permanent damage. Second opinion is not optional, given how trigger happy some of the doctors are to just send you home with a prescription for the hardest hitting shit they have available. Take that from someone who had multiple first-hand experiences of all of the above.

      I’d say, IF there is an option to alleviate symptoms and find a place in society without meds, it’s definitely a much better option. If not, well, sure, go for it, no third option here. The hardest part is actually figuring out on which side of it you are.

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      ADHD? I’m postulating a theory as of recent, that people with ADHD, who take meds for ADHD are dependent on them, similar to addiction, but the side effect here is actually being productive, in a shitty society.

      I’m not sure the totality of it, or what the general implications are, but it’s an interesting thought. So far, everytime i’ve mentioned this theory to someone with ADHD, i’ve been yelled at, so uh. Surely that’s worth something?

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        I’m postulating a theory as of recent, that people with ADHD, who take meds for ADHD are dependent on them, similar to addiction

        Dependence ≠ addiction.

        Diabetics do not have an insulin addiction.

        The folks who have scolded you are not doing so baselessly.

        When you have chemical deficiencies that affect your brain, people seem much more outspoken about giving their opinion about your affliction. I’ve heard folks saying “don’t do chemo!! These people are just trying to scam you and get your money while killing you!! Maybe you should cut out all that processed food?” Hoo boy. Just… don’t.

        Compound that with folks using our already stigmatized & shortage-prone medication for fun, and it gets worse for us.

        I love finally being in control of my thoughts and finally feeling normal and able to actually pursue the things I want. But I think the desire to be in control of your functions is… pretty sane. I don’t miss the chaos that was my constantly hopscotching thoughts & unwilling body.

        I don’t miss the suffering. I’m addicted to “not suffering”, probably.

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          Dependence ≠ addiction.

          I said similar to addiction, as a means of describing the mechanism underlying it, please try not to lie outright.

          Diabetics who take insulin, are not addicted to it, that is true. Much like drinking water because you will literally fucking die otherwise, does not make you addicted.

          However, taking meds for something like ADHD, doesn’t outright prevent you from dying, merely functioning better in society. A similar thing can be argued for things like depression, although depression is much more complicated, especially when you get into fields with SZPD and it’s related disorders, where everything stops making any sense, so it’s hard to say there.

          I know they haven’t scolded me baselessly, that’s why i preface everything i say very explicitly with “this is just a theory, this is just something im thinking of, i know why people do this, i understand why people are attached to these things” I am very explicitly explaining myself most of time.

          When you have chemical deficiencies that affect your brain, people seem much more outspoken about giving their opinion about your affliction. I’ve heard folks saying “don’t do chemo!! These people are just trying to scam you and get your money while killing you!! Maybe you should cut out all that processed food?” Hoo boy. Just… don’t.

          yeah, that’s definitely an interesting one, you’ll notice i never said anything explicitly other than my persona opinion though. I never mentioned that you or anybody else was wrong or bad for taking medication, merely that there was something interesting i’ve noticed.

          The medication issues are compounded primarily by doctors, and the previous opioid crisis we had. This is a very real effect of people being overly dependent on things like medication, and a very real concern that i have. Whether it’s founded is not trivial to say, but i feel like it’s a very genuine concern.

          I love finally being in control of my thoughts and finally feeling normal and able to actually pursue the things I want. But I think the desire to be in control of your functions is… pretty sane. I don’t miss the chaos that was my constantly hopscotching thoughts & unwilling body.

          that makes sense, im just worried that there are potentially negative implications to this, notably opioid crisis type beat problems. It seems like a rather dangerous game to be playing IMO, i suppose that’s the reason it’s prescribed, and highly regulated, though im not a massive fan of authority myself. Especially if it determines my functionality on a regular basis.

          I don’t miss the suffering. I’m addicted to “not suffering”, probably.

          I actually really like the way this is phrased.