• atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    There are two options.

    Option 1: You get 60% of the things you want.

    Option 2: You get nothing.

    You pick… Option 2?

    Edited to add: This attitude is very peculiar and seems to be specific to whiny liberals. You almost never see conservatives make such statements. They’ll complain about how RINOs aren’t what they want but would never even consider voting for the other party as a result.

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      There are other options. The Constitution affords us numerous rights, including protest, among others.

      They said they’re mad that nothing changes for the better and you said, why not spend an hour a year doing something.

      I think they’re open to more. I’d like to see more doing more. THAT’s how things change.

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        Your “other options” are not mutually exclusive with “voting for the least bad option”.

        I think this is why the older republicans win over young democrats. They realize that they need to compromise and pick something that is less “bad” to them. The kids in the democrat party whine and protest - but don’t vote.

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          I’m not saying to do something other than voting. I’m saying you keep framing this like that’s the only thing when they could do more.

          Voting is not the only option. It’s a good one, but we have more/additonal.

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            You made all that up. I never said nor implied it was the only thing you can do. But you should do it as it’s the most effective thing you can do.

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              You’ve done it here, you’re doing it in others threads.

              Instead of telling them to vote for a candidate they barely believe in, why not recommend they find candidates they like, locally, state, etc and help them. But then in general elections, vote for someone who can win.

              It’s an entire extra sentence that takes less time than calling them whiny.

              You’re boiling the options down to a suck ass, “eat your dinner” message and if you want to prevent rightward movement, I think calls to action are better.

              We move things to the correct position by having candidates that make a compelling case for why this (waves around) isn’t working. Then voting for what we got when we must.

              Edit: it is NOT the most effective thing to do. Getting additional people to vote is more effective than standing in line individually like a dumb ass and saying, “this is the best I can do.” You can do more than that.