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This is precisely why the U.S. didn’t want them to have long range missiles
So they’re going to force an escalation with a small fleet of 9/11’ers instead
civilian planes are now military targets
great job!
Cessna planes were already being extensively used as military reconnaissance planes so this hasn’t really changed anything in that regard.
Okay, yeah, respect where it’s due, the field expedient cruise missile does work.
How much does a tomahawk missile cost? I think cessnas run like 200k or 400k
Tomahawks tend to fly a bit faster and have a more focused payload.
Doing a Flying Timothy McVeigh certainly creates a large explosion. I have to question whether this strike had a meaningful impact on drone production, any more than McVeigh’s strike had a meaningful impact on the FBI’s ability to operate in the US Southwest. A ballistic missile would have had the same penetration and done far more damage.
TIL that it was an FBI building.
Federal building generally. It had a bunch of offices, including the DEA and the ATF. The latter is what he was (mostly) targeting, since it was (mostly) in response to Ruby Ridge and Waco.
it hit a residential annex, so production is not slowed whatsoever
I’m sure this won’t prompt another massive wave of missile strikes all over Ukraine in retaliation
This feels like reading about a boxing match, in which every hit by Thomas Hearns is covered breathlessly, while a blizzard of blows by Sugar Ray Leonard go utterly unremarked upon.
Can I just go on record as to say that your username is 10/10 in my book?
Literally the plot of multiple PKD books. Usually with humanity staying below ground; safe from a non-existant war.
PKD? Ah… Phillip K Dick.
There’s also the “sci-fi war porn” series, BOLO started by Keith Laumer.
Also in multiple Orson Scott Card books if I remember correctly, something about wars being fought by drones in space by the time of the initial alien invasion in the prequel books that were written (I know he sucks yadda yadda I loved his books as a kid)
tbf it’s been a trope in sci-fi since the 80s and possibly earlier.
China wins. Their production capacity is unmatched.
Plan A: The Americans sell us and subsidize a fleet of F-16s, fully equipped with state of the art target-lock AMRAAMS.
Plan B: Charlie’s dad works a lot and probably won’t notice his weekender is missing for quite a while. Load her up, boys!
Is a Cessna full of dynamite a technical?
It depends on which alignment chart you’re following. Some of the more unhinged technical enthusiasts consider any weaponized vehicle a technical, which I guess would make 9/11 a technical inside job. For the purists
, a technical is limited solely to light pickup trucks fitted with a heavy gun in the flatbed. If you want to get technical about technicals, I think limiting it solely to ground vehicles is technically the correct technical definition. Technical.Technical.
I think it’s more of an aerial vbied
Let me pose a more compelling question
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Is there evidence of the Cessna being remote controlled? I skimmed the article but I was tilted from the use of “kamakazi’d” in the headline.
More like kamakazIED imirite
I’m sorry, it seems you dropped this…
spoiler
tfw too much of a bimbo to get the connection.
You made an excellent pun with the “kamakazIED” line,
is a cartoonist that usually has a short pun as a part of their shtick.
cool terrorists take notes, it’s kind of amazing that worked & wasn’t intercepted
In fairness cessnas have a…reputation for effectively penetrating Russian airspace.
Shit, we should tell them there’s Russians working at Raytheon.
There’s something poetic about a drone factory getting drone struck.
I wonder if that will factor into the logistics of their production.
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nice plane for delivering two big balls of yarn
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Bit idea: modern day equivalent of Japan’s Kamikaze unity staffed entirely by dentists and lawyers.
no these are v rockets
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Putin harden your heart and increase your attacks
Or don’t. Cessnas are reasonably easy to target and shoot down, from a missile defense perspective. If this is all the Ukrainians have left, just buy some Iron Dome tech from Israel and maybe take a unilateral step towards ending this nightmare.
I thought Israel was now actively favoring and aiding Ukraine
That’s news to me.
They might be playing both ends.
But this kind of thing does push Russia towards the end goal of dismantling Ukraine as a sovereign state rather than simply taking the Donbas Republics and drawing the line there. As long as a sovereign Ukraine exists, it will be a hotbed for this kind of pseudo terrorist attack.
But this kind of thing does push Russia towards the end goal of dismantling Ukraine as a sovereign state rather than simply taking the Donbas Republics and drawing the line there.
The original Russian policy (under Putin, no less) was to do the same kind of neoliberal puppeteering that Western states accomplished in Germany and Egypt and Japan. Use tight economic relations with the threat of targeted sanctions (and the occasional FSB knee-capper) to keep Ukrainian aristocracy in line. And the western response was to keep fanning the flames of insurrection until the country balkinized like a dropped egg.
Now he’s pivoted back to a more traditional boots-on-the-ground occupation, a la America’s domination of Haiti and Panama or the USSR dominion over Hungary and Czechoslovakia. And the western response has been to put up a losing counter-insurgency a la South Vietnam.
But the idea of Ukraine as a sovereign state was never really on the table. Ukranians had a shot at picking their own master back in the '00s/'10s. And they might have found a Turkey/Saudi/Israeli style middle-ground, where they played Russia and America off one another for a better position at the Cheap Imports / Military subsidies negotiating table. But they were always doomed to be beholden to someone.
As long as a sovereign Ukraine exists, it will be a hotbed for this kind of pseudo terrorist attack.
Ukranians had no chill. They simply couldn’t resist doing their own little Serbian genocide in the East. And as Russia proved in Chechnya, that was a red line they weren’t going to let Ukrainian fascists cross. Losing influence over the executive branch for a few years was a pill Putin could swallow (so long as Ukraine didn’t mind giving up Crimea). But ethnic cleansing as a tool of political consolidation? Nah, dawg. Not on United Russia’s watch.
holy shit mom look a liberal
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really asking the wrong guy
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Finally, a Wunderwaffe that works.
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Why can’t you do it yourself? You’re on the internet.
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The better question is why you ask me to look up the design of the V rockets when I obviously know what they look like, lmao.
you can probably figure that out alone
Too bad I don’t give a shit.
that’s freaking badass. so, how did the v1 propellor bomb alter the trajectory of the reich in the end?
A WEAPON TO SURPASS METAL GEAR
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