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    I’ve never seen a calculator that had bracket keys but didn’t implement the conventional order of operations.

    But anyway, I’m on Team RPN.

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      my dumb ass reading this: “Team rock paper nscissors”

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        RTS = rock taper scissors
        FPS = frock paper scissors

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      https://plus.maths.org/content/pemdas-paradox

      Even two casios won’t give you the same answer:

      https://plus.maths.org/content/sites/plus.maths.org/files/articles/2019/pemdas/calculators.png

      • 💡𝚂𝗆𝖺𝗋𝗍𝗆𝖺𝗇 𝙰𝗉𝗉𝗌📱@programming.dev
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        https://plus.maths.org/content/pemdas-paradox

        There’s no pemdas paradox, just people who have forgotten the order of operations rules

        Even two casios won’t give you the same answer:

        The one on the right is an old model. As far as I’m aware Casio no longer make any models that still give the wrong answer.

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        Ah, I wasn’t thinking of calculators that let you type in a full expression. When I was in school, only fancy graphing calculators had that feature. A typical scientific calculator didn’t have juxtaposition, so you’d have to enter 6÷2(1+2) as 6÷2×(1+2), and you’d get 9 as the answer because ÷ and × have equal precedence and just go left to right.

        • 💡𝚂𝗆𝖺𝗋𝗍𝗆𝖺𝗇 𝙰𝗉𝗉𝗌📱@programming.dev
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          A typical scientific calculator didn’t have juxtaposition, so you’d have to enter 6÷2(1+2) as 6÷2×(1+2)

          That’s not true

          you’d get 9 as the answer because ÷ and × have equal precedence and just go left to right

          Well, more precisely you broke up the single term 2(1+2) into 2 terms - 2 and (1+2) - when you inserted the multiplication symbol, which sends the (1+2) from being in the denominator to being in the numerator. Terms are separated by operators and joined by grouping symbols.

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            I’m not sure what you’re getting at with your source. I’m taking about physical, non-graphic scientific calculators from the 1990s.

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              I’m taking about physical, non-graphic scientific calculators from the 1990s.

              Yep, exact same as the calculator in the linked thread. The expression entered was 6÷2(1+2).

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      I’ve never seen a calculator that had bracket keys but didn’t implement the conventional order of operations.

      I’ve seen plenty

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