When it involves terms like “universal basic income” it becomes political.
I just don’t like seeing left propaganda all over Lemmy. If you want to create community fine as I believe in free speech but don’t pollute other communities with your beliefs. I’ve noticed that Lemmy has gotten a less political overall but I still have noticed bad moderators for time to time.
“left propaganda” BAHAHAHA that’s like complaining about seeing people using science in their daily lives or talking about science and calling it science propoganda
being right-wing is inherently irrational and anti-science, there is no room to complain about “left propoganda” especially when UBI isn’t even inherently leftist, UBI still exists solely to prop up a broken capitalist system making it live on the right of the political spectrum. left propaganda would be advocating for socialism or something, this is just advocating for welfare capitalism (which has been proven to be far better for the populace than other forms of capitalism in use).
this post doesn’t even state an opinion on UBI though, so it’s weird that you took it as “propoganda”, or even “political”. it’s literally just proportions. it’s really hard to take someone who’s saying “the objective truth is just political propaganda” seriously.
That would have been one of my points too, how can you claim UBI is leftist when ideally you wouldn’t need it under a working left-wing system in the first place. I’m not very knowledgeable about politics, but “this is leftist propaganda” isn’t it, chief
Political isn’t some word for “government action that’s controversial” or “government action that you don’t like.” It’s just the discussion of government actions.
It’s inherently political to discuss universal basic income and acting as if it isn’t, is intellectually dishonest.
I agree. As much as I agree with the idea of universal basic income - because I think supporting society while reducing the work necessary is something we should aim for, because it’s the best way to ensure everyone gets a fair lot in life and because I think it’s a necessity with the direction the labour market is heading - this isn’t really the kind of thing I want to see in this community, personally. Hell, UBI doesn’t really have much to do with the thought of “if X is Y% of Z then 1000X is Y% of 1000Z” - it’s just basic maths really (and OP seems to have got the maths wrong, too).
Can we keep this kind of political rhetoric off of shower thoughts please?
Not sure when poor people being able to survive had become politics, but you do you
When it involves terms like “universal basic income” it becomes political.
I just don’t like seeing left propaganda all over Lemmy. If you want to create community fine as I believe in free speech but don’t pollute other communities with your beliefs. I’ve noticed that Lemmy has gotten a less political overall but I still have noticed bad moderators for time to time.
“left propaganda” BAHAHAHA that’s like complaining about seeing people using science in their daily lives or talking about science and calling it science propoganda
being right-wing is inherently irrational and anti-science, there is no room to complain about “left propoganda” especially when UBI isn’t even inherently leftist, UBI still exists solely to prop up a broken capitalist system making it live on the right of the political spectrum. left propaganda would be advocating for socialism or something, this is just advocating for welfare capitalism (which has been proven to be far better for the populace than other forms of capitalism in use).
this post doesn’t even state an opinion on UBI though, so it’s weird that you took it as “propoganda”, or even “political”. it’s literally just proportions. it’s really hard to take someone who’s saying “the objective truth is just political propaganda” seriously.
That would have been one of my points too, how can you claim UBI is leftist when ideally you wouldn’t need it under a working left-wing system in the first place. I’m not very knowledgeable about politics, but “this is leftist propaganda” isn’t it, chief
Better living standards for everyone is “left propaganda?”
It unironically is.
Posts like the above are why I’m a communist now.
So, you support free speech… as long as you don’t see it. Feeling cognitive dissonance yet?
You are literally extracting the political token of why universal basic income is helpful, and then claiming that it’s “not political”…?
Oh my god, helping people! How political!
Helping people via the government is political.
Political isn’t some word for “government action that’s controversial” or “government action that you don’t like.” It’s just the discussion of government actions.
It’s inherently political to discuss universal basic income and acting as if it isn’t, is intellectually dishonest.
I agree. As much as I agree with the idea of universal basic income - because I think supporting society while reducing the work necessary is something we should aim for, because it’s the best way to ensure everyone gets a fair lot in life and because I think it’s a necessity with the direction the labour market is heading - this isn’t really the kind of thing I want to see in this community, personally. Hell, UBI doesn’t really have much to do with the thought of “if X is Y% of Z then 1000X is Y% of 1000Z” - it’s just basic maths really (and OP seems to have got the maths wrong, too).
I got it backwards, and rewrote it very clearly,