Not a good look for Mastodon - what can be done to automate the removal of CSAM?

  • balls_expert@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Okay, thanks for the clarification

    Everyone except you still very much includes drawn & AI pornographic depictions of children within the basket of problematic content that should get filtered out of federated instances so thank you very much but I’m not sure your point changed anything.

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      They are not saying it shouldn’t be defederated, they are saying reporting this to authorities is pointless and that considering CSAM is harmful.

        • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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          What’s the point of reporting it to authorities? It’s not illegal, nor should it be because there’s no victim, so all reporting it does is take up valuable time that could be spent tracking down actual abuse.

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          Definitions of CSAM definitely do not include illustrated and simulated forms. They do not have a victim and therefore cannot be abuse. I agree that it should not be allowed on public platforms, hence why all instances hosting it should be defederated. Despite this, it is not illegal, so reporting it to authorities is a waste of time for you and the authorities who are trying to remove and prevent actual CSAM.

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      If you don’t think images of actual child abuse, against actual children, is infinitely worse than some ink on paper, I don’t care about your opinion of anything.

      You can be against both. Don’t ever pretend they’re the same.

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              ‘Everyone but you agrees with me!’ Bullshit.

              ‘Nobody wants this stuff that whole servers exist for.’ Self-defeating bullshit.

              ‘You just don’t understand.’ Not an argument.

              • balls_expert@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                Okay, the former then.

                Let’s just think about it, how do you think it would turn out if you went outside and asked anyone about pornographic drawings of children? How long until you find someone who thinks like you outside your internet bubble?

                “Nobody wants this stuff that whole servers…”

                There are also servers dedicated to real child porn with real children too. Do you think that argument has any value with that tidbit of information tacked onto it?

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                  Ask a stranger about anything pornographic and see how it goes.

                  This is rapidly going from pointless to stupid. Suffice it to say: stop pretending drawings are ever as bad as actual child abuse.

      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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        Hey, just because someone has a stupid take on one subject doesn’t mean they have a stupid take on all subjects. Attack the argument, not the person.