I was hoping to not engage in this discussion. But I have never seen such a hypocritical take on current affairs.
You have talked about antisemitism and genocide here. Antisemitism is real. But what Israeli supporters are doing here is to use that to shut down genuine criticisms of criminal activities. Your past history of persecution doesn’t give you a free pass to do the same onto others. You can’t claim racism to oppose the criticisms you receive due to your activities. Stop hiding behind strawman arguments.
And what do you mean by ‘cheapening the genocide’? That it’s only genocide if Jews die at the hands of the Nazis or other antisemites? Or that the Palestinians are too cheap to be considered as genocided when they are killed en masse? Are you even honest enough to talk about the Palestinian casualties in terms of cause and numbers and still claim that it isn’t a genocide? Genocide has a well defined meaning. You don’t have a monopoly on it to twist it to your whims.
It doesn’t take too much common sense to see that the Israeli response to Hamas’ initial wrong doings is greatly out of proportion. Hamas incursion was just an excuse to justify the ethnic cleansing in the region. But all I see is this transgression being billed as anti-hamas when even children are being slaughtered. How convenient is it to club all who you don’t like into a single terrorist group!
what war crimes have israeli been convicted of and what does that have to do with biden?
The same war crimes that other countries want to convict Israel of, but that’s blocked by Israel and the USA. The one that ICC at Hague is trying to, but is blocked by Bibi and biden pair.
‘I’m not convicted of anything’ isn’t a proper or even honest response when you control if you will be prosecuted at all. What you have applied is the justice of a tyrant - not that of a fair judicial system.
I am getting really tired of people questioning our motives for why we consider directly facilitating a genocide against Palestinians with US made weapons, by highly trained military personnel who not only our military has trained with, but many of the US’s largest police departments have trained with, conducting the mass killing. I don’t claim to be perfect, I especially don’t claim to be knowledgeable about every humanitarian crisis unfolding right now that isn’t getting enough attention, but I don’t understand why any of that establishes permission to ignore the humanity of the Palestinian people.
We are against genocide of the Palestinians because we are against genocide, especially when its done with the taxes paid by the citizens of our country in such a direct fashion that the president of the United States has a unique unilateral capacity to stop because of Israel’s reliance on not only literal U.S. arms and supplies but also diplomatic and monetary support. No other state in the world is more dependent upon the choices of where US defense money goes and where it doesn’t and yet… Biden seems to be behaving like this is some obscure remote conflict that he barely has any say over allllll the way over in the far off middle east…
(also if you aren’t from the U.S. but Britain or France or some other colonial power, same difference, insert your own countries politics here).
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I was hoping to not engage in this discussion. But I have never seen such a hypocritical take on current affairs.
You have talked about antisemitism and genocide here. Antisemitism is real. But what Israeli supporters are doing here is to use that to shut down genuine criticisms of criminal activities. Your past history of persecution doesn’t give you a free pass to do the same onto others. You can’t claim racism to oppose the criticisms you receive due to your activities. Stop hiding behind strawman arguments.
And what do you mean by ‘cheapening the genocide’? That it’s only genocide if Jews die at the hands of the Nazis or other antisemites? Or that the Palestinians are too cheap to be considered as genocided when they are killed en masse? Are you even honest enough to talk about the Palestinian casualties in terms of cause and numbers and still claim that it isn’t a genocide? Genocide has a well defined meaning. You don’t have a monopoly on it to twist it to your whims.
It doesn’t take too much common sense to see that the Israeli response to Hamas’ initial wrong doings is greatly out of proportion. Hamas incursion was just an excuse to justify the ethnic cleansing in the region. But all I see is this transgression being billed as anti-hamas when even children are being slaughtered. How convenient is it to club all who you don’t like into a single terrorist group!
The same war crimes that other countries want to convict Israel of, but that’s blocked by Israel and the USA. The one that ICC at Hague is trying to, but is blocked by Bibi and biden pair.
‘I’m not convicted of anything’ isn’t a proper or even honest response when you control if you will be prosecuted at all. What you have applied is the justice of a tyrant - not that of a fair judicial system.
I am getting really tired of people questioning our motives for why we consider directly facilitating a genocide against Palestinians with US made weapons, by highly trained military personnel who not only our military has trained with, but many of the US’s largest police departments have trained with, conducting the mass killing. I don’t claim to be perfect, I especially don’t claim to be knowledgeable about every humanitarian crisis unfolding right now that isn’t getting enough attention, but I don’t understand why any of that establishes permission to ignore the humanity of the Palestinian people.
We are against genocide of the Palestinians because we are against genocide, especially when its done with the taxes paid by the citizens of our country in such a direct fashion that the president of the United States has a unique unilateral capacity to stop because of Israel’s reliance on not only literal U.S. arms and supplies but also diplomatic and monetary support. No other state in the world is more dependent upon the choices of where US defense money goes and where it doesn’t and yet… Biden seems to be behaving like this is some obscure remote conflict that he barely has any say over allllll the way over in the far off middle east…
(also if you aren’t from the U.S. but Britain or France or some other colonial power, same difference, insert your own countries politics here).