• Blueberrydreamer@lemmynsfw.com
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    7 months ago

    She’s doing exactly the same thing the dude you just accused of oppression is doing.

    The main difference is that she has billions of dollars to promote her perspective, and millions of followers that listen to what she has to say. The dude “oppressing” her in this situation is just some random nobody on a site that might as well not even exist for all the cultural power it wields.

    You had a pretty reasonable argument on the first post, but this took a hard turn into bullshit real quick.

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      7 months ago

      billions of dollars to promote her perspective

      Am I missing something? Did the subject just change here? Are we really pulling strawmen?

      I still don’t see anyone trying to suppress opinions, which is my understanding of the topic we were discussing. I just see more disdain and unacceptance of people having dissenting opinions.

      If you disagree with her and think she is influencing people wrongly in ANY way, I think it should be more of a concern to you that so many people agree with her.

      Attacking someone for having an opinion you don’t like is not going to change anything for the better. Educate people instead and we’ll all be happier IMO.

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        Attacking someone for having an opinion you don’t like is not going to change anything for the better. Educate people instead and we’ll all be happier IMO.

        GTFOH with that nonsense. Opinions are for flavors of ice cream and pizza toppings, not whether people have a right to exist and have equal rights.

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          Opinions are for flavors of ice cream and pizza toppings, not whether people have a right to exist and have equal rights.

          IDK that sounds a lot like an opinion to me.

          Who is claiming someone doesn’t have a right to exist? Please cite specific examples.

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              Rule 1: Attack the argument, not the person

              An ad hominem (Latin for “to the person”) is a type of informal logical fallacy. Instead of arguing against a person’s position, an ad hominem argument attacks the person’s character or actions in an effort to discredit them.

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                Not an ad hominem but a colloquialism of calling out the appearance of argumentum ad ignorantiam.

                You appear to be implying the assertion that transphobes like Rowling are NOT claiming that trans people do not have a right to exist and attempting to shift the burden of proof to me. In context of Musk and Rowling, the heap of evidence is significant and your apparent assertion is the extraordinary one requiring extraordinary evidence.

                This logical fallacy is also most frequently the territory of bad faith actors.

                Now, if there was miscommunication, please do clarify as I do not wish to unfairly characterize your comments.