• Angel [any]OP
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      22 months ago

      Fash? They’re not fash but a vegan straight edge band that makes a ton of their songs around apocalyptic scenarios based on animal product and drug consumption.

      There was a subsect of straight edge vegans called Hardline, which is very troubling, but they have denied association with Hardline subculture.

      They’re certainly not the most based band ever, but they’re not too explicitly convicted in talking about anything besides veganism and straight edge lifestyle. They have also denounced white supremacy.

      My biggest concern is that some members have expressed anti-abortion views in an effort to pitifully tie it to their veganism, but I still dig the band otherwise.

      • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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        32 months ago

        Their best-known song Firestorm is basically a fantasy about killing criminals, which is pretty chuddy in my opinion. Plus, it has these lyrics:

        A chemically tainted welfare generation

        Absolute complete moral d****ration

        So not great cringe

        In general, they use the D-word a lot in their songs, as well as references to Sodom and Gomorrah which to me is pretty sus, it may not be overtly fascist but definitely in that same puritan ballpark. They also reference anti-abortion stuff as you mentioned, mention the second amendment, demonize drug addicts, do some anti-communism etc.

        The best way I could really describe their views would be incoherent and that’s putting it mildly. They have all that suspect stuff but also a song about the genocide of indigenous people as well as all the animal liberation and veganism stuff, which of course is waow-based and the only thing I’ll unreservedly give them credit for.

        • Angel [any]OP
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          22 months ago

          Yeah, yikes. Thanks for letting me know.

          I listened to them and saw some appeal to them as a straight edge vegan myself, but I find that the combination of straight edge and vegan somehow blends into fascism often, hence the hardline culture coming into play. I wasn’t an overwhelmingly crazy fan, but I don’t feel comfortable listening to them at all now. Granted, sometimes, I can separate art from the artist, but not if it’s an artist who I saw overwhelming appeal to in terms of their ideas, and on top of that, is effectively fascist.

          Veganism is obviously based, but it seems like many of their ideas are at odds with human liberation, and remember, humans are also animals.

          • @TheLongPrice
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            12 months ago

            I disagree, lyrics to this song and firestorm seem pretty forward straight edge.

            • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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              2 months ago

              Can you really excuse the part of the lyrics I posted?

              edit: Guess I’ll take this opportunity to point out the funniest Earth Crisis lyric, from the song Mechanism off the album Slither (AKA their nu-metal album with the cringiest raps in existence):

              Theories in practice, demons run wild, skulls on skulls are stacked and piled

              Master creator, human nature denied, kills the incentives for the best to strive

              Incoherent really is too mild of a word to describe a band who believes you should destroy animal testing facilities and also defends capitalism because muh human nature.

              • @TheLongPrice
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                12 months ago

                I think most of the firestorm lyrics seem to be about drug use? E.g. chemically tainted, d*, etc all seem to be in reference to drug use (“corrupt politicians, drug lords, dealers…”). You said it seems fascisty but maybe I’m not seeing it, it all seems vegan straight edge to me.