• muertinez@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    lol forreal.

    also why do so many of these conspiracy nuts apparently have no grasp on just how old and how large the universe is? like please tell me how creatures more advanced than humans (which took 4.5 billion years on one planet to evolve enough complexity to even understand space travel) would somehow line up perfectly with our timeline and somehow be close enough and interested enough in us to say hello, but also be super sneaky about it…mmkay

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      Humans have no sense of scale. We evolved in the context of hunter/gatherers on the African savanna, we intuitively grasp the sorts of numbers and scales that we would encounter there. A few hundred people. A few dozen miles. A human lifetime. Tiny, trivial values on the scale that we’re having to deal with even in just our own current everyday civilization. The universe as a whole makes such things unimaginably insignificant - “unimaginable” in the literal sense, we’re just not wired for it. We have to invent systems of mathematics to handle that kind of thinking for us.

      Yeah. If there are indeed alien intelligences visiting us, they’re likely incomprehensible and we have zero chance of doing anything they don’t anticipate perfectly and can’t handle without difficulty.

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        my take is that just because objects cant be identified doesnt mean theyre alien.

        also that the statistical likelihood of another life form with the same or greater intelligence as humans contacting us on this timeline is so infinitely small that its not even worth thinking about.

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          I’d be more inclined to believe they’re probes from higher dimensional beings than that they’re intelligent life from other stars/planets, but even that I’d give astronomically low odds to. It’s like a 99.999999999% chance it’s some unknown phenomenon or misunderstood sensor reading/glitch, 0.0000000009% chance it’s something from a higher dimension, and 0.0000000001% chance it’s aliens.

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        The easiest answer is that they are mistaken and misunderstood whatever they think is aliens.

        Something secret that they had no need to know, so they have incomplete knowledge they are misinterpreting. It’s a code word, or words, of a project they don’t have need to know that sounds like aliens. It’s a cover story for something else they have no need to know, like a captured foreign spy satellite, foreign aircraft, foreign spacecraft, secret government spacecraft or etc.