• uphillbothways
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    11 months ago

    Cheeto supremo would have put that shit on blast for sure if there was any proof of alien contact. His presidency has eliminated any doubt in my mind that humans have no knowledge of or interaction with extraterrestrial species. That guy can’t keep his dumb mouth shut.

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      11 months ago

      Counterpoint: If I was one of the people in charge of keeping it secret and Trump got elected… I would just “forget” to ever schedule that briefing.

    • @muertinez@lemmy.world
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      411 months ago

      lol forreal.

      also why do so many of these conspiracy nuts apparently have no grasp on just how old and how large the universe is? like please tell me how creatures more advanced than humans (which took 4.5 billion years on one planet to evolve enough complexity to even understand space travel) would somehow line up perfectly with our timeline and somehow be close enough and interested enough in us to say hello, but also be super sneaky about it…mmkay

      • FaceDeer
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        511 months ago

        Humans have no sense of scale. We evolved in the context of hunter/gatherers on the African savanna, we intuitively grasp the sorts of numbers and scales that we would encounter there. A few hundred people. A few dozen miles. A human lifetime. Tiny, trivial values on the scale that we’re having to deal with even in just our own current everyday civilization. The universe as a whole makes such things unimaginably insignificant - “unimaginable” in the literal sense, we’re just not wired for it. We have to invent systems of mathematics to handle that kind of thinking for us.

        Yeah. If there are indeed alien intelligences visiting us, they’re likely incomprehensible and we have zero chance of doing anything they don’t anticipate perfectly and can’t handle without difficulty.

        • @muertinez@lemmy.world
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          611 months ago

          my take is that just because objects cant be identified doesnt mean theyre alien.

          also that the statistical likelihood of another life form with the same or greater intelligence as humans contacting us on this timeline is so infinitely small that its not even worth thinking about.

          • @orclev@lemmy.world
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            111 months ago

            I’d be more inclined to believe they’re probes from higher dimensional beings than that they’re intelligent life from other stars/planets, but even that I’d give astronomically low odds to. It’s like a 99.999999999% chance it’s some unknown phenomenon or misunderstood sensor reading/glitch, 0.0000000009% chance it’s something from a higher dimension, and 0.0000000001% chance it’s aliens.

        • @virr@lemmy.world
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          411 months ago

          The easiest answer is that they are mistaken and misunderstood whatever they think is aliens.

          Something secret that they had no need to know, so they have incomplete knowledge they are misinterpreting. It’s a code word, or words, of a project they don’t have need to know that sounds like aliens. It’s a cover story for something else they have no need to know, like a captured foreign spy satellite, foreign aircraft, foreign spacecraft, secret government spacecraft or etc.

    • Fredselfish
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      911 months ago

      Our sales rep is a huge conspiracy person gets sucked into all the YouTube videos. He was excited said they have to tell their under oath.

      I said people can lie under oath you know. It blew his mind.

      • @conditional_soup@lemm.ee
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        I’m waiting for the government to put up or shut up on this, but I watched the hearing and some of those claims were very, very extraordinary. Just balls out claiming that we recovered ships and non-earth origin biologics on board them, planning to give Congress a list of witnesses to interview in closed sessions etc. It could all be a big lie, but I find it hard to imagine the utility of it.

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          It could all be a big lie, but I find it hard to imagine the utility of it.

          Politicians get positive screen time and headlines acting like they care about ‘transparency’ in a context that won’t effect them politically or their donors financially. They get to say a bunch of open-minded sounding but totally non-committal stuff about ‘getting the public the answers they deserve’ but they don’t have to followup on anything. It’s a bipartisan public brownie-points bonanza, plus it’s a distraction from more controversial problems they should be addressing so of course they’re going ‘all-in’.

          • @KevonLooney@lemm.ee
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            Yeah, it’s free votes from nutbags with very little risk. Everyone involved is “just asking questions”. Plus it distracts from actual issues (hottest 3 weeks on record).

            Camera technology has advanced so fast we have 4K videos of every battle in Ukraine. 95% of people have a good video camera on them at all times. Some people literally film every aspect of their lives and post it online.

            If there were alien spaceships buzzing Earth, it would be in the background of Instagram videos within days. People would capture them inadvertently.

  • PunchingBag
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    Cool that such striking testimonies were entered into official record. Future investigations should continue to be interesting, and it’s always good to see bipartisan support anywhere in congress. UFOs/UAPs are a fun topic, even if there are still likely terrestrial explanations such as adversarial weapons we don’t know about.