Seriously it really grinds my gears that the Canadian government thinks that 16 years olds are mature and intelligent enough to drive a car, work a full-time job, pay taxes, apply for a passport, and are able to live independently on their own without a parent or guardian if they want to and get married with parent consent.

But when it comes to voting the Canadian thinks 16 year olds are not mature and intelligent enough to vote. Its completely ridiculous in my opinion.

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      Exactly it’s completely fucking ridiculous that 16 years old are legally able to pay for taxes, drive a car. But can’t legally be allowed to vote until they are 18.

      A 16 year old and 18 year old both have the same level of maturity. So if 18 years old are allowed to vote then I think 16 year old should also legally be allowed to vote.

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        To be fair, some 15 year olds are just as mature as some 19 year olds. Are you saying 15 year olds should be able to buy smokes and drink? In Canada a 16 year old cannot drive a car without another licensed driver sitting beside them as well, so that’s not a good comparison.

        Maybe 16 year olds should be tax-exempt until they are old enough to vote :)

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          True a 16 year old can’t drive without a another valid driver’s license sitting beside them in Canada but it’s still does not change the fact that a 16 year old driving a car even with another licensed driver beside is still extremely dangerous because there is still that chance they could get in to a car accident and die.

          As far my opinion on if 15 year should be able to legally be allowed to smoke or drink. I think l that if a 15 year old understand the long term social ramifications of smoking and drinking and still chose to not care about the potential risk that can happen as result of them smoking or drinking then it’s morally okay for them to smoke or drink in my opinion.

          I believe everything to be morally neutral unless I am given a valid reason for it to be morally wrong.

          I do not get my morals from the law or from a religious book.

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            15 year olds should absolutely not be legally allowed to drink and smoke. Knowing the detriments of vices does not shield one from the immense peer pressure young people need to deal with. Not to mention that the long term financial burden of supporting sick or hospitalized people is on an older, ideally healthier, generation.

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              If you ideally want a healthier generation. it would be better if crigrites, alcohol and all recreational drugs are illegal in Canada so that we wouldn’t have to deal with the long-term financial burden of supporting sick or hospitalized people.

              And I think parents that overfeed their child with alot of food everyday are morally a bad person and should be put in prison for child abuse in my opinion because childern 13 and under do not know the long term social ramifications of obesity. They don’t know that they could potentially get a heart attack and die if they continue to stuff their face with food everyday.

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                And I think parents that overfeed their child with alot of food everyday are morally a bad person and should be put in prison for child abuse

                I agreed that 16 year olds should be allowed to vote until I read this sentence. Congrats on poisoning your own well.

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        A 16 year old and 18 year old both have the same level of maturity

        Biologically this is not true. People’s brains are still in development until the mid-20s

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          Even still I don’t see any difference at all between a 16-year-old and a 18 year old. So they should have the right to vote in my opinion because 16 years old are already driving cars and paying for taxes in Canada.