• mozz@mbin.grits.dev
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    6 months ago

    if biden is actually even better for Palestinians at all

    You have GOT to be joking.

    we shouldn’t telegraph guaranteed votes to biden and the democrats no matter what they do

    This part, I actually agree with. Ralph Nader did a great interview where he was expressing this huge level of frustration with Democratic voters and said more or less, I get the reality, but there is a way to wield your vote in order to get things that you want. You get together a coalition, and you credibly communicate to the person in the election that they can only get all of your votes if they do X, Y, and Z. That puts pressure on them and it can absolutely change policy.

    To him, he was saying that he thinks it’s criminally silly to just say “well Biden’s better than Trump so he can count on my vote.” Like I say, objecting to that makes sense to me. By the same token I think it’s silly to say “well Biden’s not good enough so he can count on not getting my vote even if Trump is 10 times worse”. Both of those courses of action are passing up an opportunity to actually influence policy. But stuff like the uncommitted votes in Michigan I thought were a great idea.

    I mean that coalition building takes work, and it maybe won’t succeed, it’s this huge operation where throwing around comments on Lemmy is pretty easy. But it will actually help, if you do it.