• TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    yes this is the lie so many of us hate and the same lie that will elect trump who is fucking infinitely worse. I won’t argue back with any more smooth brains who say shit like this, I called you out on your lies and that’s enough.

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      6 months ago

      a modern nation state with a mechanized military is absolutely indistinguishable from fascism.

      they will do whatever it takes to maintain the power of the state to field that military, so they will do whatever it takes to maintain the power of the state. everything else, the trappings of law and order, the facade of democratic control, the illusion of economic freedom, they will only exist so far as they are necessary to maintain state power.

      under pax americana, our mutual defense treaties have relieved many states of the necessity of fielding their own military to the extent necessary to defend their state, but the mutual defense treaties make them absolutely complicit in the fascism of the states capable of defending them. in particular, the usa, but any other military power as well.

      opposing the creep of outspoken politically fascist movements to seize the reigns of these technocratically fascist states is secondary, in my consideration, to the dismantling of the technocratic fascist states.

      it seems that you are content to tolerate the fascist state so long as someone you can’t identify as politically fascist controls it. i am not.

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        6 months ago

        a modern nation state with a mechanized military

        This describes nearly every country that has ever existed, so how does the term have any meaning if you’re right about this definition of fascism?

        it seems that you are content to tolerate the fascist state so long as someone you can’t identify as politically fascist controls it. i am not.

        … this is a conversation about policy difference. Somehow by saying “actually there’s a large difference” when there obviously is, means I have no issue with fascism? Nevermind that that would be an entirely separate topic that we only touched on because you brought it up apropos of nothing. I mean, that’s just brain dead. Your official position:

        “closing all the borders and eliminating all healthcare programs is literally the exact same as mostly maintaining the status quo then slowly adding improvements here and there. just like how boiling water is identical to lukewarm water.”

        I often wonder like what deluded thought process gets you from just going around saying smoothbrain bullshit like this and the perfect communist utopia you imagine? Are you actively eating lead every day or something? I don’t even know how I’d turn my brain off like that if I wanted to.