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        And it’s overblown and exaggerated.

        There’s a narrative being pushed that EVs = fires.

        It’s used as a fear tactic, and every time I’ve done a basic search, the facts show it to be proven false. Be sceptical, and use your critical thinking skills when you see these claims/stories.

        See my post above relating to this specific claim.

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      LOL! Gotta love that ‘EVs = FIRE!!!’ narrative.

      ‘Fire at 10 dealerships’ doesn’t sound nearly as clickbaity as ‘10 dealerships burned to a crisp’.

      And if you see a picture of that 10th dealership, only the showroom burned down. ‘a total of seven vehicles were destroyed in this latest fire, and several privately-owned vehicles (at the location for repairs) were also damaged in the incident’. There were dozens of cars in the dealership lot that were untouched. I won’t even go into BYD’s claim that ‘the source of the fire did not come from their car on display. But from a room on the second floor of the building’

      But I guess we have different sources, and live in different bubbles.

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        I’m not sure how many showrooms I am comfortable with catching on fire in 3 years, lol.

        BYD also benefits heavily from investigating these themselves and downplaying them.

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            You were extolling the virtues of skepticism and critical thinking in another post, so the bar is set a little higher - did you do a count of fires at dealerships per brand, so we’re not comparing the number of fires of a specific brand in China to the number of fires of all brands across the US?

            It would also be helpful to primarily look at the most common car brands sold in the us first.

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                So you haven’t actually done the research, and you were trying to convince me that byd cars are a safe brand by sharing arbitrary news articles for dealership fires across all brands of cars in the USA? That’s not very convincing, lol.

                I did a preliminary search of Buick, Volkswagen, etc. and there were less fires in the same time span for those brands.

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                  That’s not what I was on about. I’m not pro any brand in particular.

                  It was a simple search to show fires happen at dealerships of other brands too. And as you’ve now found there is no reliable independent data on fires at dealerships by brand.

                  So, nobody can really state whether BYD has more or less dealership fires than any other brand.

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                    I was saying that 10 fires in 3 years makes me nervous about byd cars, you suggested that that’s expected, but your evidence doesn’t support that at all.

                    Preliminary searches about the data points you brought up yielded less dealership fires per brand than BYD.

                    Additionally, you clearly believe that this is a good enough source of data such that you cited it yourself in your own arguments, it seems a little dishonest to say “search results were a good enough source of data when it supported my argument, but not when it goes against my argument - that’s when we need reliable independent datasets”

                    EDIT: Ah, I see now, you weren’t saying that byd is a safe brand, you were saying that I shouldn’t be nervous about 10 fires in 3 years because other places also have fires. That line of reasoning is a little silly - “yes, murder town has a potentially high count of murders per capita, but don’t worry about it because murders happen elsewhere!”

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            So, to review- you say I’m wrong when I say some EV dealerships burned up, but then you provide more examples of EV dealerships burning up. Do you think they do or don’t burn? Mixed messages

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              No dealerships burned up. Some cars at dealerships burned up. Exaggeration doesn’t help you

              You started by specifying BYD, I easily found multiple fires at other brand dealerships.

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                I just used them as an example and was being silly when i used “crisp”, feel free to play semantics all you want

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                  You say semantics. I say a false statement.

                  It’s exactly what you see over and over in media headlines and reporting around EVs and fires. As soon as you look at facts, oh, surprise surprise that’s wrong!

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                    If I had a history of saying what your accusing me of saying, then I’d deserve this. But I don’t. I claimed some EV dealerships burned down, you complained but then you provide more examples of EV dealerships burning down. This is the only time ive talked about it. I’ve talked about this subject with you far longer than anyone else about it, here or IRL…which is why I said you’re putting words in my mouth. I’m done, bye