• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    I’ll never stop complaining about Y axis that don’t start at zero.

    If that means the change isn’t noticable, then the change isn’t noticable.

    • Windex007@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      Yeah when I showed the cop the graph of my speed before getting in my car to be 67000mph (speed of the earth around the sun) to 67080mphwhen I was driving it he couldn’t see the difference so I didn’t get the ticket.

      Or sometimes choosing a common-sense reference makes sense.

      Which isn’t to say THIS one does, it doesn’t, but the absolutism of “it’s nerf or nothing” is a tad extreme.

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        Well, it does make sense, doesn’t it?

        What we’re interested in is not the number of users, but the trends: whether the number is increasing or decreasing over time. Starting the axis at 0 would not be useful in this regard, as the trend would be almost completely obscured.

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          7 months ago

          For something like that, you need a special graph, and I forget the name because no one uses it.

          Y axis is “percent growth” and the X axis isn’t at the bottom, it’s in the middle.

          Like, the only way I can describe it is a line graph because it technically is, but there’s some name done it.

          Capitalism doesn’t like it tho, because there’s “red numbers” and red numbers scare investors

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            At some point recognisability is also worth something. I can immediately read this graph, I understand it, it’s good.

            Occasionally it’s used in a confusing way where people assume it starts at zero despite it not being the case, and sometimes intentionally so. But that’s just the case here.

        • Windex007@lemmy.world
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          7 months ago

          If the goal is to visualize growth trends, I don’t think raw user counts are the correct value to track on the Y-axis at all. That’s where my head was at when I said it doesn’t make sense. Abusing the Y-axis to try and coax data out in this case is just a symptom of having the wrong measure.

          Daily new users. Percent user growth.

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            7 months ago

            There is visible growth in posts and comments, which is good. However, I’ve also started seeing spam posts.

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      7 months ago

      I’ll never stop complaining about Y axis that don’t start at zero.

      If that means the change isn’t noticable, then the change isn’t noticable.