• Iapar@feddit.de
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    6 months ago

    I don’t get it.

    How is it undermining that and not affirming? I mean to fetishise a group is wrong, I get that and that is also my opinion but if they want to fuck a transwoman they want that because she is a woman which affirms the womanhood?

    And the point is how is it transhate if you like the trans aspect specifically. Doesn’t make sense to me.

    It is not a wordplay it is what those words mean. Phobic means something like hate or fear and phile means something like love or attraction.

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      6 months ago

      The poor thing thinks words mean whatever they decide they mean. They’re not capable of explaining their position in an intelligent way, either.

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          6 months ago

          You don’t understand how undermining someone’s gender identity by focusing on them being trans over them being their expressed gender is transphobic?

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            6 months ago

            No.

            Edit: as phobic means you want to get away from something or don’t want it to exist. Fetishising is the exact opposite.

            If someone is arachnophobic that doesn’t mean he wants to fuck a spider or undermine the identity of the spider. That someone wants the spider be gone because it is a spider.

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                6 months ago

                You’re really gonna have to start writing more than one sentence per comment if you want anyone here to know what the fuck you’re on about

                • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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                  6 months ago

                  I wrote a lot more than 1 sentence in the beginning and linked a good thread with a bunch of trans individuals discussing said topic. They aren’t adding anything, just playing semantics with philic vs phobic.

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                6 months ago

                This whole exchange could be more productive if you could explain your opinions.

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                  6 months ago

                  They’re arguing that being sexually attracted to something is a phobia, the definition of which is having an irrational fear of something.

                  Do you really think this person has the ability to string enough words together to justify their opinion?

                  • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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                    6 months ago

                    Did you read the original reddit thread? Chasers are dangerous to the trans community. It isn’t about being attracted to trans individuals, it’s about specifically seeking them out for being trans and fetishizing them being trans.

                    Can you not see how this may look if you are the trans person in this relationship?

          • Iapar@feddit.de
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            6 months ago

            I can see that. But that wouldn’t be “negrophobic” either. Not everything negativ in the context of a group is phobia.