• CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    I’m not saying at that size! I’m saying that whatever size increase you need to make a reasonably safe pickup would be closer to the small extreme (the Kei) than the large extreme.

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      6 months ago

      Then you end up with the smaller trucks we already have on the market or a Maverick that has a bed so small that it’s not that useful for actual truck stuff…

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        6 months ago

        Surely you can imagine a truck that may or may not currently be on the market. This theoretical truck is minimally large enough to be reasonably safe, and also has a bed is as big as the trucks pictured. Like, a truck that does not have four doors and two rows of seating.

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            6 months ago

            What? I just said it may or may not exist. And half the point of the image we are commenting on is that car makers are making excessively large trucks so it’s very possible that such a car isn’t currently being made. I’m just asking you to use 1% of your imagination to imagine a truck that has a full size bed that is neither the Kei nor a monument to man’s hubris. Like a 90s-sized truck.

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              6 months ago

              So if the thing doesn’t exist, why are so adamant that it’s possible…? Do you think maybe it doesn’t exist, since it’s impossible…? No… that can’t be the reason….

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                6 months ago

                Yes, that’s a good assumption. Another possibility is that regulatory language incentivizes car makers to have larger vehicles.

                It doesn’t really matter whether there’s a market or not, because the main reasons to bemoan these monstrous trucks are that they are bad for the environment, a nuisance on roads and parking lots, and more dangerous for other cars and pedestrians.

                I think if the regulatory language is updated to disincentivize the monster trucks, then we’d see a market for the more 90s style trucks.

                For some people, the lack of second row would cause them to not get a truck with a full size bed at all, which I don’t see as a problem.

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                  6 months ago

                  But accidents in Canada are going down even though we buy just as many trucks so maybe the trucks aren’t the issue.

                  From an environmental perspective, mid size and full size get the same fuel economy.

                  90s trucks were pretty much exactly the same size, just not as tall.

                  Crew cab long bed are available on ¾ ton (250/2500) format and up so that’s not what people are buying if they don’t do truck stuff anyway.

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                6 months ago

                I can’t believe I missed this photo of your “over capacity” truck carrying less than the rated capacity of the cars you insisted were too small and a photo of what looks like loose pine needles.

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                  What’s the capacity of the car? My truck is 1800lbs, the car can TOW (very important distinction that trolls want to “forget” about) 1000kg, which is 400lbs more than mine can haul, but, 9,000 less than it can tow….

                  What’s the cars capacity, it’s towing is 1000kg.

                  My trucks capacity is 850kg and 10,000kg towing. Thats an extra zero by the way in case you miss it.