• NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world
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    When asked about abortion, Biden started ranting about illegal immigrants murdering women…

    That is an outright lie. I’m not a fan of Biden for different reasons, but let’s stick to the truth.

    I actually watched the debate. Its clear you didnt. Biden was coherent, even trump was for the most part coherent, he just made stuff up constantly.

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      During a response to a question about abortion, Biden mentioned, seemingly out of nowhere, a young woman who was recently murdered by an immigrant — an apparent reference to a 12-year-old Houston girl who was strangled to death, allegedly by two Venezuelan men who entered the country illegally.

      The connection to abortion was unclear.

      https://apnews.com/live/presidential-debate-2024-updates

      This isn’t the 1970s… We don’t have to rely on our memories of what happened

      If you don’t believe the AP’s live updates, if the full debate is uploaded to YouTube somewhere you can watch Biden say it.

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        Calling it ranting is hyperbole

        For an average person? Sure.

        Rant: to talk in a noisy, excited, or declamatory manner

        For last night? It was one of Biden’s most energetic responses…

        For him, it was noisy, excited, and declamatory in manner.

        In the context of Joe Biden, he was ranting about it.

        Quick edit:

        Your clip isn’t the one I’m remembering from last night and that my link referenced. I’ll try and find the other one, I didn’t know he pulled the same pivot twice.

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          ranting: noun

          a long, angry, and impassioned speech. “at times, his rantings would become incoherent”

          adjective

          speaking at length in an angry and impassioned way.

          I’m more familiar with the definition that includes the length of the speech. If you were using a definition that only refers to the energy, then I wouldn’t call it hyperbole.

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            No worries, the English language is almost completely illogical.

            But yeah, with a 2 minute timer it’s hard to go into that meaning of a rant.

            More of the “ranting and raving” then like a Dennis Leary standup joke that has a 45 minute set up.

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            Oh and your clip is the only one that came up when I was searching, I might try and flip thru the whole debate if I can find that to see if it came up twice. But I probably won’t be that much energy into it, I was probably just remembering it wrong