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    Because Trump’s propaganda machine works, and y’all would rather have a fast and complete genocide than a slow one that might possibly be stopped?

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      No Genocide is my requirement for non Fascists.

      Biden propaganda doesn’t change my mind. Biden doesn’t even have a chance anymore. No reason to keep advocating for Genocide.

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        No Genocide is my requirement for non Fascists.

        Still voting for Jill Stein and Ukrainian genocide?

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          There is a difference between a war and a Genocide. Russia wants to annex Ukraine. Not murder everyone to replace it with its own population.

          Not sure how not contributing to a war makes one responsible for it.

          But hey libs love throwing meat into the meat grinder let’s offer up some more Ukrainians before admitting that at some point a truce will need to be reached.

          Remind me again about how well Biden stalled Ukrainian weapons at the start of the war and doesn’t allow them to bomb oil refineries to make sure they won’t win.

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            There is a difference between a war and a Genocide. Russia wants to annex Ukraine. Not murder everyone to replace it with its own population.

            lmao, hilarious that you engage in the same kind of genocide denial that Israeli simps do. Almost like the only difference between you and them is what side you’re on. But tell me more about how massacring civilians, kidnapping children, and deporting populations DEFINITELY isn’t genocide. That’s definitely not a fascist thing to defend.

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              The Russian goal does not appear to be to wipe out the population of Ukraine but conquer their land. Or would you disagree with that?

              And more importantly why doesn’t Biden allow Ukraine to strike the Russian oil refineries and gas tanks?

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                The Russian goal does not appear to be to wipe out the population of Ukraine but conquer their land.

                Ah, is that why there are mass deportations, kidnapping of children, and massacres of civilians in the already-occupied parts of Ukraine. They’re trying to conquer the bits they already occupy. How wholesome! It’s insane what distances you’ll go to defend genocide.

                And more importantly

                “More importantly than whether or not there’s a genocide going on”

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                  I see you don’t have a comeback to how to actually help Ukraine so all you can do is deflect. Something about intent being important for the word Genocide right? I heard that was very important until israeli ministers started screaming they want to Genocide Palestinians from the rooftops

                  Did you know about the 2022 ceasefire proposal they made Zelensky reject because they were going to “support him to win the war”?

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                    I see you don’t have a comeback to how to actually help Ukraine so all you can do is deflect.

                    “Deflection is when you stay on topic, and the more you stay on topic, the more deflection it is”

                    But tell me more about how assisting Ukrainian genocide will help Ukraine.

                    Something about intent being important for the word Genocide right?

                    Oh, so they were just accidentally kidnapping Ukrainian children, murdering Ukrainian civilians, deporting Ukrainians, and moving in Russian colonists. My bad.

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      Yeah so you don’t like genocide and believe Biden supports it? Okay whatever.

      You must also know that trump supports it. And not only in Palestine but he also wants Russia to take over Ukraine which also seems to be a little genocidal and also completely wrong.

      So what’s better, 1 genocide or 2?

      Not to mention the millions that will die when project 2025 begins. If you think Biden is bad, trump is a million times worse.