• pyre@lemmy.world
    80·
    4 months ago

    the only reason republicans win is because you allow your land to vote. it’s unbelievable.

  • Nate@programming.devEnglish
    32·
    4 months ago

    Frankly both of these maps are deceptive (though the top one is albeit more so). The dot gets colored the primary color in that region, and visually makes the Democrats seem way more dominant when it’s much more bipartisan. A gradient would make this map better

    • Rivalarrival@lemmy.todayEnglish
      13·
      4 months ago

      Yep, each area needs two dots, one red, one blue, sized proportional to their votes.

      Florida will get quite a bit bluer, but California and the northeast will get much redder.

    • souless@lemmy.world
      7·
      4 months ago

      Yes, all it takes is small critical details to influence the desired reception of a presentation of data. A goal of a good map or any statistical based representation is not to operate as means of propaganda, but rather by letting the viewer decide the correlation based on making the actual data easy to understand without deceiving in an appealing way.

    • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.worldOP
      57·
      4 months ago

      Nah, most of it is owned by Bill Gates and a handful of conglomerates.

      The people actually living there don’t typically control or own much more than the serfs of Imperial Russia. Maybe that’s why they love the shirtless guy who wants to be Tsar so much? 🤷

        • Deceptichum@quokk.auEnglish
          46·
          4 months ago

          Farmers say they’re having trouble hiring enough people to work during harvest season, causing some crops to rot before they can be picked. […] The ongoing battle about U.S. immigration policies is blamed for the shortage. The vast majority of California’s farm workers are foreign born, with many coming from Mexico.

          https://fortune.com/2017/08/08/immigration-worker-shortage-rotting-crops/

          This is who is doing the harvesting.

            • snooggums@midwest.socialEnglish
              18·
              4 months ago

              That doesn’t mean their vote should count more than people in the cities.

              The problem is that they get a double bonus on the national stage because of the Senate AND the disproportionate representation in the House due to it being capped at 435 members. This means they have an outsized influence on all three branches. Electoral College for president, Senate AND House because of the House being capped at 435 members, and the nomination process for justices including SCOTUS.

              If the House was truly proportional to population it would be better. Making the second place in the presidential election the vice president again would be even better since they can break the ties in the Senate. If the presidential election was changed just straight up popular vote that would make it so the only advantage for a state is the Senate and that would be plenty.

        • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techEnglish
          33·
          4 months ago

          Lol Americans don’t do harvesting. I’m from Iowa. They literally ship illegal immigrants in on busses to harvest, I’ve seen it first hand. Why I’m shocked any farmer would vote Republican, it’ll financially destroy most individual farms having to hire legal help

          • FireTower@lemmy.world
            4·
            4 months ago

            I have a friend who worked at a farm and she did harvest work at a farm in MA until she moved to a new place and got a job at a flower shop two years ago.

            • BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.worldEnglish
              5·
              4 months ago

              This is one of those things that is probably always going to be anecdotal. Some people will definitely know people who have done the harvesting themselves, and because of the fact that the alternative is illegal, we’ll likely never be able to get accurate data on the prevalence of illegal immigrants doing the harvesting.

              • FireTower@lemmy.world
                3·
                4 months ago

                Oh yes it’s absolutely an anecdote. I simply needed to refute a generalization. Every rule has its exceptions.

      • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techEnglish
        2·
        4 months ago

        Yeah I don’t think how much of the Midwest and South is corn. Corn that we don’t even need, that old ag bills that said “the government will buy it even if we don’t need it”

  • 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de
    9·
    4 months ago

    Counterpoint: the vote is near to 50/50 and neither of those maps look anywhere close to 50/50. Come back when you’ve got an alternative that looks proportional, not equally bad just the other way.