you will never have a fair competition because all people are born different - people have differing testosterone levels, differing body builds, differing muscles mass, etc. most competitive sports are plagued with doping because hard work only takes you so far before your body hits its limit.

just let the olympics and shit be a showcase and celebration of what humans can accomplish, fuck it make doping legal as well, i wanna see how wild humans can get

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    just let the olympics and shit be a showcase and celebration of what humans can accomplish, fuck it make doping legal as well, i wanna see how wild humans can get

    This kind of mindset is ruining professional sports. How about we don’t encourage drug abuse even more?

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    i know your heart’s in the right place, but suggesting we do away with competition in sports and everyone goes home with a blue ribbon instead so athletes like myself don’t feel left out is one of the most patronizing and infantilizing ideas I hear constantly. all it would accomplish is pissing everyone off (including me) and make me feel even more isolated, like my presence is the only reason no one can compete and have fun anymore. i play smash these days, and if someone suggested we include items and stop counting stocks and everyone just have fun, we’d all last ten minutes before walking away to never to play the game again.

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      i endorse this, and i don’t endorse blue ribbons. its all built on bullshit. the idea that anyone could work hard and excell in any sport. there are genetic (and especially epigenetic) advantages. always. there are quirks of circumstance. always.

      acknowledge that there is no perfectly ‘fair’, and the whole myth is bullsiht. now who wants to see two fuckers beat the fuck out of each other?

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    Honestly, legalizing doping would be terrible. Under capitalism, it would just result in poor people being forced onto a bunch of drugs and then thrown at each other in sports arenas for the chance at a livable income…before they die in their thirties.

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    Don’t make doping legal. It will infest all sports, way worse than it already has, down to little fucking kids.

    Oh your kid wants to play soccer? Sorry he just got kicked in half by the 200lb freak 12 year old who’s gonna be dead by 25.

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    Those capitalist brain worms really run deep. You’re right it shouldn’t be about winning or losing just having fun and bonding. I know I wouldn’t mind hanging out with some comrades to play some soccer irl, if it wasn’t for covid at least, or ultimate frisbee or whatever y’all play.

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    It’s all fake concern anyways. It’s transphobia and the same people who oppose trans women in women’s sports are the same people who ridicule the WNBA for being boring or a waste of money.

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    fucking thank you. sports are already not fair because of all the factors beyond our control or desire to control that go into making one body different than another. people are just phobic that’s all.

    people need to give up competitive sports and start going on canoe trips and riding their bike around town. just kidding, do what you want sports-wise, but i’ll die on that hill if you need me to.

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    I’ve been thinking about this, specifically the comments that point out that the whole reason women’s leagues exist is because women were banned from the traditional leagues (which reminds me of the Negro Leagues, and we got rid of those. Which, I bet there was the exact same sort of rhetoric about letting black people into white-controlled spaces that we see about letting trans people into cis-controlled spaces) and also the comments about how sports should just be about having a good time with your buds and not vicious competition.

    Now that last point is dead wrong. We all know the real point of sports: finding the first superfit person who will be our champion against the Dark Lord who rules over us all.

    And I see a lot of comments about science, and I’m sure I don’t need to spell out the point of science: building the weapon our champion will use to kill the Dark Lord. (which I don’t want to wade into the whole “why don’t we just get wizards to enchant a sword” debate. Obviously this would be ideal, but if we still had magic then the Dark Lord could never rule over us. Magic has died out, and wizards with it, so we have to use science instead, that’s just the way it is.)

    You’re asking: Comrade, why have you spelled out these very obvious points that everyone knows?

    Well, in short, I am calling for an immediate end to segregation along any lines in athletic competition. Only if all people, regardless of who they are, or how old they are, or how fit they are, are entered into the great challenge can we find our champion. They could be anyone, after all, who knows what form a superfit person might take? Perhaps a two-month old will be our savior, wielding the double-H bomb against our Enemy. Perhaps an 87 year old.

    Seriously though, it is silly to keep trans people out of women’s leagues (though I guess I am legitimately opposed to the existence of women’s and men’s leagues if integration is possible. Unless there’s good arguments in favor of them? I guess I haven’t heard any but outside of reading a few articles I don’t really know that much about these issues. I just wanted to say something silly about wizards). So many people just cannot accept that gender is a social construct.

    And also I’d legitimately disagree with the comments calling for a total end to competition. While competition doesn’t need to be cutthroat, friendly competition or even rivalry can be good. Plus, some people like doing sports, and some people like watching sports, and I don’t see why that should end. Change it’s shape, sure, the world organized under communism would look very different, but surely it’d still exist in some form.