I know people will say this is bad, a new campaign will be rushed, etc. But I think we all know Biden was an excuse for many not to vote, or worse, to vote for Trump. Withdrawing will be his legacy when we win, not his failing.
Biden absolutely did the right thing and, perhaps, the most courageous thing.
Democrats would have coalesced around him if decided to keep going but we’ve been begging him to step aside. This is a key difference between Trump “fans” and Biden voters. We’re not drawn to him as a personality.
Once a candidate is selected, I don’t care who it is, we must support them because not doing so is voting for an end to democracy.
People have done more with less campaign time and he will go down as having listened and done what was requested of the people and party I honestly think this says a lot of good stuff about the democratic party and Biden once we get the spin right.
It won’t be hard. Kamala is going to be able to put a bullseye on Trump and republican politics like Biden simply wasn’t ever able to do. She’s going to be able to hyper focus on the deeply unpopular beliefs of the base and it will be hard for Trump or others to really deny it without losing their core supporters.
Further, because she’s relatively unknown there’s really not the same baggage as there was with Hillary. Most people don’t know who she is and I think that really plays to her favor.
Let’s be honest here, Trump will never lose his core supporters. He could literally turn out to be the devil incarnate, and his supporters will say it’s their god’s will. He’s a 34-count convicted felon and they see that as something to boast about.
The issue in this country is that the less educated are following those with a playbook of getting the less educated to vote, to vote for them, and in areas that games the electoral college system.
We were a hair’s breadth from another Trump term in 2020 by 11,000 votes in GA. Not to mention his coup attempt.
It cannot be that close again. It must be decisive. I hope Harris, if she is the nominee, can achieve that.
Nobody who would consider voting for Trump is going to vote for whoever replaces Biden. Nobody. This is about getting apathetic voters off their butt. Which I hope works, but every part of my being is telling me they’re going to pick someone who apathetic voters wouldn’t vote for anyway.
I’m no fan of cops, but I think this actually plays very well with the political environment. Recent elections saw rebukes of progressive Police policies in the Pacific North West. As much as I wish it were otherwise, that message isn’t resonating with voters even in considerably progressive areas.
Having a traditional prosecutor may be an advantage in that regard. And it may provide us a new avenue to look at how we can have better policing that more people will support.
Fwiw, I am harshly critical of most elected dems but I have never considered not voting. I think I and many people hold our allies (for lack of better term) to higher standards and get angrier when they fuck up. So I think a lot of these posts are just that. Harsh criticism of a candidate =/= not voting for them. People are strategic about voting pragmatically, they’re just also very frustrated with the dem establishment’s behavior.
Giving up power is way more respectable than trying to hold onto power. Something Biden’s opponent, now Harris’s opponent isn’t good at.
There’s a lot of people that are old and don’t follow politics all that closely. Biden’s story of having to accept that he’s gotten too old to do the things he wants to do is a story they can relate to. The guy they can relate to most is endorsing Harris. It’s not like he’s gone. He can still make speeches about how the GOP wants to cut Social Security and his friend Kamala won’t do that.
I would have preferred him to stay on course. While I don’t care what sex they are or color or whatever, a fuckload of garbage twats in this country sure as fuck do. Biden was also likeable in public appearances. I have fuck all idea what Harris is like, and 5y of time vs like 4 months to win public opinion, oof it will be an absolute blitz. And I consider myself rather knowledgeable and up-to-date on US politics. I have friends that have no idea what’s going on at any given time, or why.
I need to research her now and become familiar, but I see this as a big negative for chances, not positive. Anxiety spiked hard about what’s to come.
While I don’t care what sex they are or color or whatever, a fuckload of garbage twats in this country sure as fuck do
This is my least favorite argument I keep seeing for why Biden shouldn’t drop out. The racist shit-heels you’re referring to were always going to vote for Trump regardless of who the Democratic candidate is. There is no reason for Democrats to try and appeal to racists, and even if there were it would be immoral to do so. Sacrificing your values to win is no true victory.
You’re losing your nerve, and while that’s understandable, it’s self-sabotage.
I wouldn’t say I’m ‘sacrificing values’, more like “woman bad, no vote for” is strong here still. Yeah yeah ‘we will see how it goes’ but that’s exactly what fucking scares me, we don’t get a “best 2 out of 3” save, and we need fucking EVERYONE on board to avert catastrophe.
I’m in a swing state and it’s like a sea of Trumpers and I’m just like “yeah, we are fucked”.
I know people will say this is bad, a new campaign will be rushed, etc. But I think we all know Biden was an excuse for many not to vote, or worse, to vote for Trump. Withdrawing will be his legacy when we win, not his failing.
Thank you President Biden. You are a hero.
Biden absolutely did the right thing and, perhaps, the most courageous thing.
Democrats would have coalesced around him if decided to keep going but we’ve been begging him to step aside. This is a key difference between Trump “fans” and Biden voters. We’re not drawn to him as a personality.
Once a candidate is selected, I don’t care who it is, we must support them because not doing so is voting for an end to democracy.
The fact that we’re here is a travesty.
People have done more with less campaign time and he will go down as having listened and done what was requested of the people and party I honestly think this says a lot of good stuff about the democratic party and Biden once we get the spin right.
It won’t be hard. Kamala is going to be able to put a bullseye on Trump and republican politics like Biden simply wasn’t ever able to do. She’s going to be able to hyper focus on the deeply unpopular beliefs of the base and it will be hard for Trump or others to really deny it without losing their core supporters.
Further, because she’s relatively unknown there’s really not the same baggage as there was with Hillary. Most people don’t know who she is and I think that really plays to her favor.
Let’s be honest here, Trump will never lose his core supporters. He could literally turn out to be the devil incarnate, and his supporters will say it’s their god’s will. He’s a 34-count convicted felon and they see that as something to boast about.
The issue in this country is that the less educated are following those with a playbook of getting the less educated to vote, to vote for them, and in areas that games the electoral college system.
We were a hair’s breadth from another Trump term in 2020 by 11,000 votes in GA. Not to mention his coup attempt.
It cannot be that close again. It must be decisive. I hope Harris, if she is the nominee, can achieve that.
I agree with you but this is an interesting choice of words given other recent events lol.
If we win in November, it’ll be because Biden made this selfless decision. He’ll deserve medals and statues.
Lol the Speaker of the House publicly called for him to step down. He was practically forced out.
Some hero.
The speaker of the house is a Republican you nitwit
Ex speaker
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It’ll be great to have a woman talking about abortion and making this election a referendum on national abortion access.
Americans love to vote for something rather than against something.
Nobody who would consider voting for Trump is going to vote for whoever replaces Biden. Nobody. This is about getting apathetic voters off their butt. Which I hope works, but every part of my being is telling me they’re going to pick someone who apathetic voters wouldn’t vote for anyway.
Kamala 🙄
Except for the bank of those who are just Russian agents who will undoubtedly find some new “excuse” why the Democrat candidate is not fit to run.
Expect lots of “cop” comments in regards to Harris from
Russianstotally real leftists.She was a cop. She called herself the “top cop”. I fucking hate the police and she’s got my vote over a literal pedophile felonious fascist.
I’m no fan of cops, but I think this actually plays very well with the political environment. Recent elections saw rebukes of progressive Police policies in the Pacific North West. As much as I wish it were otherwise, that message isn’t resonating with voters even in considerably progressive areas.
Having a traditional prosecutor may be an advantage in that regard. And it may provide us a new avenue to look at how we can have better policing that more people will support.
Seriously, thank you for voting.
She was a cop. She did the thing we wish all cops did and left the profession.
Fwiw, I am harshly critical of most elected dems but I have never considered not voting. I think I and many people hold our allies (for lack of better term) to higher standards and get angrier when they fuck up. So I think a lot of these posts are just that. Harsh criticism of a candidate =/= not voting for them. People are strategic about voting pragmatically, they’re just also very frustrated with the dem establishment’s behavior.
I’m so thankful I live in a country where 4 months is (still) believed to be a ridiculously long amount of time to campaign.
Good luck America! Please show the rest of the world you’re still capable of making sane choices.
Giving up power is way more respectable than trying to hold onto power. Something Biden’s opponent, now Harris’s opponent isn’t good at.
There’s a lot of people that are old and don’t follow politics all that closely. Biden’s story of having to accept that he’s gotten too old to do the things he wants to do is a story they can relate to. The guy they can relate to most is endorsing Harris. It’s not like he’s gone. He can still make speeches about how the GOP wants to cut Social Security and his friend Kamala won’t do that.
But, when democrats lose due to this move… ???
I would have preferred him to stay on course. While I don’t care what sex they are or color or whatever, a fuckload of garbage twats in this country sure as fuck do. Biden was also likeable in public appearances. I have fuck all idea what Harris is like, and 5y of time vs like 4 months to win public opinion, oof it will be an absolute blitz. And I consider myself rather knowledgeable and up-to-date on US politics. I have friends that have no idea what’s going on at any given time, or why.
I need to research her now and become familiar, but I see this as a big negative for chances, not positive. Anxiety spiked hard about what’s to come.
Anyone in Canada looking for a roommate…?
This is my least favorite argument I keep seeing for why Biden shouldn’t drop out. The racist shit-heels you’re referring to were always going to vote for Trump regardless of who the Democratic candidate is. There is no reason for Democrats to try and appeal to racists, and even if there were it would be immoral to do so. Sacrificing your values to win is no true victory.
You’re losing your nerve, and while that’s understandable, it’s self-sabotage.
I wouldn’t say I’m ‘sacrificing values’, more like “woman bad, no vote for” is strong here still. Yeah yeah ‘we will see how it goes’ but that’s exactly what fucking scares me, we don’t get a “best 2 out of 3” save, and we need fucking EVERYONE on board to avert catastrophe.
I’m in a swing state and it’s like a sea of Trumpers and I’m just like “yeah, we are fucked”.
If*
Sure. Still doesn’t invalidate the concern.