My daily driver is a pure EV, but while I was on holiday a few months ago I was driving a Yaris Hybrid as a rental (which to my understanding is basically a Prius drivetrain in a Yaris body).
Fuck me it was terrible. Every time I applied even mild acceleration it sounded like the valves were going to eject out of the engine, meanwhile it had about as much get up and go as a sedated elephant. 0-60 in four to six business days. On ramps were an interesting experience.
The only saving grace was that we only used about a third of a tank of gas during our week long trip.
I’ll stick with pure electric thanks. No complicated drivetrain with multiple systems to go wrong, no compromised performance, enough range to get me everywhere I need to go, and good enough charging infrastructure (at least in my country) to make longer journeys trivial.
I rented a Mustang Mach-E a few months ago knowing full well that I would be driving from Houston, to Austin, to Dallas, and back to Houston over the course of a week and a half.
Each of those legs is greater than the range of a Mach-E, and I had no range anxiety. None of my hotels had EV charging.
I did, however, learn how needlessly complicated EV driving on travel is. There’s plenty of charging stations but you really need to be aware of what type and speed and how many are available, what’s nearby to do, etc.
However, it’s also worth considering that road-trips are wildly different and usually much less frequent than your daily routine or errands about town. Being able to charge at home and knowing that you can charge at work or at the supermarket, or where the EV street parking is downtown, makes a big difference, I’m sure.
What was also weird was that in Texas it seemed like the EV spots at rest stations or stores were intentionally in terrible places far away from entrances. Here in SE MA & RI, EV drivers get some of the best spaces. Like a special incentive for driving an EV.
All in all I really enjoyed driving it. Our next car will be an EV, I’m sure, but I’m in no rush to replace either of our cars right now.
Depends on the trim and years I guess, I have a Rav4 hybrid and they have more power better fuel economy obviously and a different and better eCVT compared to the gas models.
Your latter point certainly is a negative and having to replace the battery but less stress on the engine throughout the lifetime of the vehicle.
At least on the Prius, it has power modes, one of which (and the default) severely drops the power and throttle response, to save energy. If the Yaris was in eco mode, or something equivalent, that might explain it.
Your latter point certainly is a negative and having to replace the battery but less stress on the engine throughout the lifetime of the vehicle.
If you can get by with just purely electric, it would also save maintenance, since you’d be barely running the engine at all (or not at all), and wouldn’t need to regularly flush the fluids like you would with a car that’s been sitting a while.
That’s not the best for the engine to never have it running but if it turns on or is used for a fraction of the driving it means the same. My hybrid has 34k miles and the engine has probably only been running for like 27k of those. Running errands to the store or shops a few blocks away the engine turns on for like a minute.
Hm, well maybe I’m biased, as I haven’t even seen a hybrid or an electric car. It’s weird a hybrid is worse, than an ev, as it’s just an electric car with a generator (well, it’s different with mild hybrids), so it should be the same (the only reason, I could think of is yaris being a shitty car, but it probably isn’t).
My daily driver is a pure EV, but while I was on holiday a few months ago I was driving a Yaris Hybrid as a rental (which to my understanding is basically a Prius drivetrain in a Yaris body).
Fuck me it was terrible. Every time I applied even mild acceleration it sounded like the valves were going to eject out of the engine, meanwhile it had about as much get up and go as a sedated elephant. 0-60 in four to six business days. On ramps were an interesting experience.
The only saving grace was that we only used about a third of a tank of gas during our week long trip.
I’ll stick with pure electric thanks. No complicated drivetrain with multiple systems to go wrong, no compromised performance, enough range to get me everywhere I need to go, and good enough charging infrastructure (at least in my country) to make longer journeys trivial.
I rented a Mustang Mach-E a few months ago knowing full well that I would be driving from Houston, to Austin, to Dallas, and back to Houston over the course of a week and a half.
Each of those legs is greater than the range of a Mach-E, and I had no range anxiety. None of my hotels had EV charging.
I did, however, learn how needlessly complicated EV driving on travel is. There’s plenty of charging stations but you really need to be aware of what type and speed and how many are available, what’s nearby to do, etc.
However, it’s also worth considering that road-trips are wildly different and usually much less frequent than your daily routine or errands about town. Being able to charge at home and knowing that you can charge at work or at the supermarket, or where the EV street parking is downtown, makes a big difference, I’m sure.
What was also weird was that in Texas it seemed like the EV spots at rest stations or stores were intentionally in terrible places far away from entrances. Here in SE MA & RI, EV drivers get some of the best spaces. Like a special incentive for driving an EV.
All in all I really enjoyed driving it. Our next car will be an EV, I’m sure, but I’m in no rush to replace either of our cars right now.
Depends on the trim and years I guess, I have a Rav4 hybrid and they have more power better fuel economy obviously and a different and better eCVT compared to the gas models.
Your latter point certainly is a negative and having to replace the battery but less stress on the engine throughout the lifetime of the vehicle.
At least on the Prius, it has power modes, one of which (and the default) severely drops the power and throttle response, to save energy. If the Yaris was in eco mode, or something equivalent, that might explain it.
If you can get by with just purely electric, it would also save maintenance, since you’d be barely running the engine at all (or not at all), and wouldn’t need to regularly flush the fluids like you would with a car that’s been sitting a while.
That’s not the best for the engine to never have it running but if it turns on or is used for a fraction of the driving it means the same. My hybrid has 34k miles and the engine has probably only been running for like 27k of those. Running errands to the store or shops a few blocks away the engine turns on for like a minute.
Hm, well maybe I’m biased, as I haven’t even seen a hybrid or an electric car. It’s weird a hybrid is worse, than an ev, as it’s just an electric car with a generator (well, it’s different with mild hybrids), so it should be the same (the only reason, I could think of is yaris being a shitty car, but it probably isn’t).
You haven’t seen or used either hyrbrid or electric but needed to share that hybrid was objectively better?
This is why training AI on user content leads to so many terrible answers.
I just said it should be better according to the statistics.
You didn’t mention “should” or “statistics” at all in your post with the claims. You just stated your made up opinion as fact.
That’s because the Yaris is just a terrible vehicle, that problem does not exist in my Ford escape hybrid.
I did have a focus hybrid in 2013 ish that was complete ass but ford at least had figured out how to make a good hybrid in the 10 years since